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To: metacognative
Why don't you restate what you think this proves?

The information in the link is evidence of DNA "fossils", that can only be explained by common ancestor evolution.

The only possible creationist style explanation is that God placed viral DNA junk in certain places within the DNA chain in order to fool us into thinking that evolution occurred. Some kind of faith test or something.

I don't believe God is that kind of prankster. I believe God created evolution and this DNA is merely evidence of how incredible His creation of life is.

I think "creationists" have taken a few words in the Bible, like when Adam was created out of the dust of the earth, and naively believe that that was all there was to it.

But Genesis leaves open the possibility that there was some time and effort between the "dust" and the "man", and I believe that evolution over millions of years fits between the words of that verse in the Bible.

There were posts yesterday of the Behemoth story in Job. Quite obviously a hippopotamus. But it says that it's bones were brass and iron, obviously not literally true. The Bible, particularly in Genesis, must be read from between the lines.

The DNA in the post is physical evidence, found in Gods own creation, of HOW He did his work.

I simply don't see what the problem here is, except that a lot of people have misinterpreted Genesis.

384 posted on 05/05/2005 8:07:30 AM PDT by narby
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To: narby
"Quite obviously a hippopotamus"

How many hippos have tails the size of cedar trees?

JM
394 posted on 05/05/2005 8:35:21 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: narby

I think we almost agree. Except I still don't see evidence of total common ancestry of all Life.


403 posted on 05/05/2005 8:44:59 AM PDT by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: narby

"The DNA in the post is physical evidence, found in Gods own creation, of HOW He did his work.

I simply don't see what the problem here is, except that a lot of people have misinterpreted Genesis."

CORRECT!


406 posted on 05/05/2005 9:06:14 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: narby
The Bible, particularly in Genesis, must be read from between the lines.

Like this?


NIV Genesis 12:1-3
 1.  The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you.
 2.  "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
 3.  I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

And this?

NIV Genesis 12:7
   The LORD appeared to Abram and said, "To your offspring I will give this land." So he built an altar there to the LORD, who had appeared to him.

...and this...

NIV Genesis 13:12-13
   Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

...and this...

NIV Genesis 14:20
   And blessed be  God Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand." Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.

...and this...

NIV Genesis 15:13-14
 13.  Then the LORD said to him, "Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and mistreated four hundred years. 
 14.  But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out with great possessions.

...and this...

NIV Genesis 15:18-21
 18.  On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the river  of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates--
 19.  the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites,
 20.  Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites,
 21.  Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites."

...and this...

NIV Genesis 16:12
   He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward  all his brothers."

...and this...

NIV Genesis 17:1-7
 1.  When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to him and said, "I am God Almighty ; walk before me and be blameless.
 2.  I will confirm my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers."
 3.  Abram fell facedown, and God said to him,
 4.  "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations.
 5.  No longer will you be called Abram ; your name will be Abraham,  for I have made you a father of many nations.
 6.  I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you.
 7.  I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

...and this...

NIV Genesis 18:20-21
 20.  Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
 21.  that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

...and this...

NIV Genesis 19:5-7
 5.  They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
 6.  Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
 7.  and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

...and this...

NIV Genesis 21:9-10
  9.  But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking,
 10.  and she said to Abraham, "Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac."

 

.....which leads to THIS:


NIV Galatians 4:21-31
 21.  Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?
 22.  For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
 23.  His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise.
 24.  These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar.
 25.  Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.
 26.  But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.
 27.  For it is written: "Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband."
 28.  Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.
 29.  At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 
 30.  But what does the Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son."
 31.  Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

But what does the Scripture say?   Kinda hard to read BETWEEN; ain't it!

565 posted on 05/06/2005 5:05:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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