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To: Ksnavely
This brings up the Patrick Henry issue. He refused to sign the Constitution because he felt that people would rely on it to protect their freedoms instead of the people relying on their values to protect their freedom.

The values at conflict here are free speech and group think, by retreating to the Constitution group think is sure to win. That also explains how socialism has advanced in our society.
375 posted on 05/04/2005 2:17:45 PM PDT by usa1776
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To: usa1776
"by retreating to the Constitution group think is sure to win"

Sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about. It is the constitution that guarantees our freedom by binding and limiting government (b/c government growth is antithetical to individual freedom). While true our constitution is rooted in moral principles, your claim that it leads to group think is absurd.

Furthermore our adherence to the constitution has no relationship to the advancement of socialism in our society (in fact being a government limiting document is has been one of the greatest impediments). Socialism has advanced because enough people believe in it and actively campaign for it and gained enough prominent positions during the 20th century to advance the ideology.

If the majority of the founding fathers thought our underlying principles should guard our freedoms then what the hell did they write a constitution for? Honestly now.
385 posted on 05/04/2005 3:16:16 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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