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Breaking News: > Republicans win right to challenge Wash. state election
KGW ^ | 5/2/05 | KGW

Posted on 05/02/2005 9:54:22 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum

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To: Corin Stormhands
Y'all hearin' this? What's up?

In the background... they've been arguing for a re-vote... this isn't that argument yet, this is just a decision about the kind of argument they'll be allowed to have :~D

61 posted on 05/02/2005 10:33:59 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I'd rather be happy than right...)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Ping
and Praise the Lord. Amen.


62 posted on 05/02/2005 10:34:36 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: piperpilot

Over at DU: Hey! No pushing! There's plenty for everyone!

63 posted on 05/02/2005 10:35:43 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Josh in PA
When was the last time a democrat or republican operative has gone to jail for violating election laws? Even in states where the incidence of voter fraud and violations of campaign laws are as blatant, problematic, and obvious as Linda Tripp giving guided tours of the new DNC headquarters.

Prosecuting election laws requires a strong stomach and a consistant standard. The politicians instead offer us perpetual nausea and a constantly redfined lay of the legal landscape in order to hide out and smuggly avoid justice.

64 posted on 05/02/2005 10:35:56 AM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Libertina; Publius; Billthedrill
Outstanding!

I'm know how intricately involved ya'all have been in getting this dealt with!

Thank you for carrying the torch of conservatism and justice forward!

Regards,

TS

65 posted on 05/02/2005 10:37:30 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: All

"Pucker up hippies!!"

66 posted on 05/02/2005 10:39:37 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Hostage
In my opinion it should be common sense to think the precinct level is the more 'coarse' level that tends toward a more accurate analysis.

It is less coarse -- and your intuition is correct. The least accurate approach is to weigh each precinct as the state went, more accurate to weigh each precinct as its county went, and still more accurate to weigh each precinct as it went - assuming the number of uncounted ballots is a small fraction of the precinct ballot total.

67 posted on 05/02/2005 10:39:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Sweet!!


68 posted on 05/02/2005 10:40:21 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: sionnsar

ping


69 posted on 05/02/2005 10:40:48 AM PDT by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: Howlin

They are acting normal in Seattle/Olympia for once. This is head-spinning.


70 posted on 05/02/2005 10:41:09 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Future Useless Eater

Court case starts May 23.

Best case scenario is that we re-elect Rossi in '05!


71 posted on 05/02/2005 10:41:31 AM PDT by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Wow, a "thinking" judge in Washington State. Can the Apocalypse be far behind?

LOL! But I'll take the good news anyway.

72 posted on 05/02/2005 10:44:25 AM PDT by radiohead (revote in washington state)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

UPDATED STORY:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_050205_politics_rossi_hearing.23573df81.html
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By REBECCA COOK, Associated Press

SEATTLE - Republicans have won a victory in their challenge to the election of Washington Governor Christine Gregoire.

AP File

Washington gubernatorial candidate Dino Rossi.

Chelan County Superior Court Judge John Bridges said Republicans will be allowed to use "proportional analysis" to prove their case that illegal votes swayed the election.

Republican Dino Rossi is challenging the election of Democratic Gov. Christine Gregoire. Rossi, a former state senator and real estate investor, won the first count and machine recount. But Gregoire, formerly the state’s attorney general, won by 129 votes in a hand recount of 2.9 million ballots.

Trial is scheduled to start May 23. On Monday, Bridges heard pretrial motions that will determine what evidence and arguments the parties will be allowed to use during the two-week trial. Though the state Supreme Court will ultimately decide the election challenge, Bridges’ decisions now will shape the case.

The state Republican Party intervened on Rossi’s side and the state Democratic Party intervened on the state’s side, defending the election. Republicans are focussing on King County, the state’s most populous, where election officials have acknowledged mistakes that allowed some people to vote illegally while not counting other, legal votes.

One of the biggest questions Bridges has to answer is how, exactly, Republicans will have to prove their case. State law includes provisions for challenging and nullifying an election — but they’ve never been used to try to kick a governor out of office.

Republicans claim they’ve identified more than 1,000 illegal votes — mostly felons, but also unverified provisional ballots and a few dead voters. They want the court to subtract illegal votes from both candidates’ totals according to precinct voting patterns. For example, if 10 illegal votes came from a precinct that voted 60 percent for Gregoire and 40 percent for Rossi, the Republicans would deduct six votes from Gregoire and four from Rossi. Most of the illegal votes Republicans have identified come from King County, which went 58 percent for Gregoire.

Republicans call this method “proportional analysis.”

Democrats argue against it, saying it amounts to statistical guessing. At the same time, they’ve been collecting evidence of illegal votes in Rossi-leaning counties, and plan to use the same “proportional analysis” as evidence in court of illegal Rossi votes.

Both sides have acknowledged that whatever happens in Chelan County, the case will ultimately be decided by the state Supreme Court. Either side could appeal any of Bridges’ rulings, which could delay the start of the trial.


73 posted on 05/02/2005 10:44:56 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: rockrr
Best case scenario is that we re-elect Rossi in '05!

Worst case scenario is that fraud and corruption in the biggest cities of Washington are exposed, and reforms are put in place to keep them from happening again.

Mark my words, the worst of the fraud didn't happen in King County, it was in Pierce and Snohomish Counties. They were the ones who marginally voted Rossi in the machine counts, but the hand counts were heavily Gregoire in "found" votes.

74 posted on 05/02/2005 10:47:35 AM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: Hostage

"there is news that democrat party operatives have found unverified provisional ballots in or near Pullman."

What do these D-rats do.....steal and hide sufficient numbers of votes, real or faked, that can be 'found' whenever needed, to back up their numbers?


75 posted on 05/02/2005 10:48:26 AM PDT by spoiler2
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
NOTHING TO SEE HERE! MOVE ALONG!


76 posted on 05/02/2005 10:49:31 AM PDT by They'reGone2000 (Re-elect Rossi 2005!)
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To: spoiler2

It does seem to be a favored tactic.


77 posted on 05/02/2005 10:49:40 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: rockrr

Where are Jesse, Reverend Al, Hitlery, Box-o-Rox, Scotch Ted, McAwful, JFingK, Breck Boy, Governor of WI, Wexler, ALBORE,Maxine Waters, Dennis the Menace, et al ? Now we have a real instance of voter fraud and all these critics of the system aint nowhere to be found...


78 posted on 05/02/2005 10:49:45 AM PDT by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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To: Howlin
Who ever thought a court would break our way?

When the public eye is focused on the courts, the courts generally do the right thing.

79 posted on 05/02/2005 10:51:06 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
State law includes provisions for challenging and nullifying an election — but they’ve never been used to try to kick a governor out of office.

And it's not being used here. From everything I've read here, the real governor of Washington is the plaintiff.

Congratulations, Washington Freepers!

80 posted on 05/02/2005 10:52:23 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring! Such as it is.)
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