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Orlando Bloom Crusades in 'Kingdom of Heaven'
Hollywood Confidential ^ | April 30th, 2005

Posted on 04/29/2005 1:00:01 PM PDT by missyme

We recently attended a preview of director Ridley Scott's crusader epic, "Kingdom of Heaven," which opens nationally May 6. The $130 million film -- which stars Orlando Bloom, Liam Neeson and Jeremy Irons -- tells the story of a 12th century blacksmith who rises to defend Jerusalem from Muslim invaders.

We're unable to officially review the film until its release, but we had these observations:

Although Scott put "Kingdom" in development before the 9/11 attacks, it's obvious that the War on Terror forms the backdrop for the film. "Kingdom of Heaven" is clearly intended to be a parable for our time, and it's therefore disappointing that a director of Scott's skill and experience (directing classics like "Alien," "Blade Runner" and "Gladiator") would opt for such a conventional, secular-liberal interpretation of the present conflict.

Even with its gorgeous settings, splendid action sequences, and some fine performances by Neeson and Irons, "Kingdom of Heaven" wears its politics too much on its sleeve.

The Western crusaders are too often dismissed as bloodthirsty and rapacious, and religion itself (both Christianity and Islam) is reduced to little more than a source of fanaticism. Scott doesn't glamorize the Islamic cause -- yet he can't understand it, either. Neither side's worldview is explored in any depth, because Scott assumes that war is the natural outflow of religion -- any religion.

Liberal Hollywood is struggling to find its voice in the post-9/11 world. Ridley Scott's effort may be the most ambitious yet in this regard, but the limitations of the liberal wordview in understanding our current struggle are become more obvious by the day. Aesthetically, "Kingdom of Heaven" may be a huge leap forward from "Fahrenheit 9/11," but its values are only baby steps removed.


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To: Borges

See post 117.


121 posted on 04/29/2005 2:09:06 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Borges

Zoe Oldenbourg - The Crusades. Dated but encyclopedic and still accurate.


122 posted on 04/29/2005 2:09:18 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: wideawake

I wish they had struck back a lot harder and lot longer.


123 posted on 04/29/2005 2:10:10 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Teflonic

mark for later...


124 posted on 04/29/2005 2:10:15 PM PDT by Deetes (Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick)
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To: BonnieJ

Don't discount the power of pop culture. It was TV that gave me my liberal indoctrination.


125 posted on 04/29/2005 2:10:37 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Borges
(I screwed up in my last post by using a "?" instead of a "!") No I don't! Its make believe, and your problem is becoming clearer and clearer to me now. Acting like someone your not is no accomplishment and the fact you regard it so highly is very revealing. Many people fake it every day, and it amazes me that people hold someone who fakes very well in high regard. "You are like so good at stealing, you're like my idol or something". NEVER MIND listening to their (Hollywood) opinions on anything. How do you know they aren't acting again? The medium was a great achievement, how its been used is not. And as one last little side bar, actors didn't invent their profession, neither did the directors, and neither did the producers so I'd stop giving them credit if I were you.
126 posted on 04/29/2005 2:11:10 PM PDT by ReeseKev27 (Boycott liberal institutions, France, and the Dixie Chicks :))
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To: MikeinIraq

I see your point now. Thanks for your support. {whew!}


127 posted on 04/29/2005 2:12:12 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Dares of Phrygia

"You are an idiot. . "

Ad hominem remarks dopn't advance an argument.

You can't judge people living in the 1000's by contemporary standards of morality.

The Crusaders were no worse than their adversaries and frequnetly a lot more noble.


128 posted on 04/29/2005 2:13:26 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: sanchez810; missyme
According to the (Catholic Encyclopedia Crusades are) : Expeditions undertaken, in fulfilment of a solemn vow, to deliver the Holy Places from Mohammedan tyranny.

LOL. That was the equivalent of the WMD excuse of our day.

I believe the real reason--from the Church's standpoint--may have had more to do with politics:

Rome figured if it controlled the Holy Land, then other Christian religions would appear false, and thereby Roman Catholicism would have a monopoly on Christianity.

And there was no shortage of nobles who saw the Crusades as a chance to add mid-eastern fiefdoms to their domains.

129 posted on 04/29/2005 2:13:42 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Lakeshark

I can't. Nor will I. Christians did not say anything about what the Crusaders were doing either. there is a point there I think.


130 posted on 04/29/2005 2:13:57 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (MikeinIraq in 2020!!)
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To: MikeinIraq

Did I imply they were?


131 posted on 04/29/2005 2:14:28 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: newgeezer

no problemo...

I wasnt exactly very clear :)


132 posted on 04/29/2005 2:14:28 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (MikeinIraq in 2020!!)
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To: MikeinIraq
I was definitely being sarcastic but if you'd like to explain how many sides there are to the crusades I'd love to hear it. Oh, and if you could specify which one newgeezer is part of that would be helpful too. I just hate being misguided. :)
133 posted on 04/29/2005 2:15:17 PM PDT by ReeseKev27 (Boycott liberal institutions, France, and the Dixie Chicks :))
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To: ReeseKev27
All Art is 'make believe'. From painting to writing. I never claimed anyone invented their professions. And what does that have to do with anything? Shakespeare didn't invent his profession either. The medium has been used to create a huge body of work that is the envy of the world. A shame you don't appreciate it.
134 posted on 04/29/2005 2:15:24 PM PDT by Borges
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To: MikeinIraq
Christians did not say anything about what the Crusaders were doing either.

Splain what you're saying a bit better please.

135 posted on 04/29/2005 2:16:17 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Whatever...................................................................:-)
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To: wideawake

Don't stand in the way of a committed Christophobe.


136 posted on 04/29/2005 2:22:59 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: ZULU

nope but I wanted to say it so that it was said....


137 posted on 04/29/2005 2:23:55 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (MikeinIraq in 2020!!)
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To: Age of Reason

"Rome figured if it controlled the Holy Land, then other Christian religions would appear false, and thereby Roman Catholicism would have a monopoly on Christianity."

Roman Catholocism DID have a monopoly on Christianity in Western Europe at the time. The Crusades certainly did reinforce the power of the Papacy, but I'm curious which other Christian religions you are refering to.


139 posted on 04/29/2005 2:25:45 PM PDT by LiveBait
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To: Lakeshark

What I am saying is that at the time, no one, from a Christian standpoint said anything about what the Crusaders did or even knew what happened except that the crusades were "glorious".


Much the same could be said about the Muslim world these days. If there is a car bombing in Tel Aviv, someone in Saudi or the UAE won't know much about it unless they see it on TV because chances are their Imams will tell about how "Glorious" it was.

It doesnt absolve anyone of any guilt or association to the acts, but the surroundings are simliar.


140 posted on 04/29/2005 2:26:21 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (MikeinIraq in 2020!!)
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