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Ohio Rec Center Won't Sell Family Pass To Lesbian Couple
WCMH-TV Columbus, Ohio ^ | April 28, 2005

Posted on 04/28/2005 10:13:37 AM PDT by Columbus Dawg

MASON, Ohio -- A lesbian couple says a community recreation center's refusal to sell them a family pass because they aren't married is discriminatory.

Heather Scott, 33, and Carrie Scott, 40, applied for the family pass for themselves and Heather Scott's three children who live with them and were told they don't meet the city's definition of a married couple.

"We're no different than anyone else," said Carrie Scott, Heather's partner and the children's stepmother since the women's civil union ceremony in Vermont in 2002. "Our family is the same as the one across the street. It's a little different makeup, but we deserve the same as everyone else."

City Law Director Ken Schneider said the taxpayer-financed Mason Community Center's policy is not discriminatory.

The center offers family memberships to married couples or single adults and any children residing in the same household and claimed on their most recent federal income tax return.

Mason officials say the policy, in place since the center opened in 2003, isn't intended to ban same-sex partners. They say they just wanted to find a definition of family and decided the federal standard was the best.

"We were just trying to put our arms around it," said Michael Hecker, director of the parks and recreation department in this city 20 miles northeast of Cincinnati. "We just didn't want to be taken advantage of by 10 people who don't live together."

Mason officials say the Scotts can still be members of the center, but they must get an individual membership for Carrie. Annual family passes cost $525 a year for residents. A separate membership for Carrie would cost an extra $335.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; gays; homosexualagenda; issue1; marriage; mason; ohio
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To: Houmatt

I thought of her too. But monkey!


21 posted on 04/28/2005 10:34:15 AM PDT by fml
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To: Houmatt

NO its not. The families I grew up around all had mom's and dads. (Now whether the parents were married or divorced or had a missing parent was another story)


22 posted on 04/28/2005 10:35:46 AM PDT by Aleighanne
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To: Columbus Dawg

fighting the good fight...


23 posted on 04/28/2005 10:37:00 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: mlc9852

"No - you are very different."

I'm assuming even though you posted to me, you were addressing Carrie. I'm with you on the parenting issue. Things like legal or tax advantages for a couple would be a tricky question, however, if homosexuality was ever proven to be a choiceless "behavior". In that case I believe it would be discriminatory to deny a couple legal status or benefits (religious rites like marriage would be a different issue) just like it would be discriminatory to deny on grounds of another choiceless property like race.


24 posted on 04/28/2005 10:37:23 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: mlc9852

Excellent post. My heart breaks for these children. What a selfish mother they have. Too bad she didn't discover she was a lesbian BEFORE she had children. What a pair of losers!


25 posted on 04/28/2005 10:38:17 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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To: Columbus Dawg

"refusal to sell them a family pass because they aren't married is discriminatory"

Of course it is. It discriminates between the group living in your house and what we in the United States call a FAMILY. There's nothing illegal, immoral, or "wrong" with such discrimination, however. We can, will, and do discriminate between good family folk and perverts, as we ought.


26 posted on 04/28/2005 10:47:21 AM PDT by BMIC
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To: Aleighanne

Honey, saying that having two people of the same gender in a romantic relationship with children is the same as two people of the opposite gender in same is so completely removed from reality I don't know where to begin.


27 posted on 04/28/2005 10:48:15 AM PDT by Houmatt (Another dead child in Florida! When are we gonna stand up and say, "Enough!")
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To: Columbus Dawg
The center offers family memberships to married couples or single adults and any children residing in the same household and claimed on their most recent federal income tax return.

One of these women can still purchase a family pass for her and the kids. The other one has to purchase her own pass, however.

This is really no different than if two straight unmarried people tried to purchase a family pass.

28 posted on 04/28/2005 10:50:02 AM PDT by Modernman ("Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Flightdeck

Watch out for "choiceless behavior" - that could include pedophiles and sexual predators. After all, most experts agree they cannot change. Do we want special rights for all perverts? Where do we draw the line? And I seriously doubt it will ever be proved that homosexuals have no choice. To say a human being has no choice over their sexual behavior is a very dangerous attitude, IMHO.


29 posted on 04/28/2005 10:50:29 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: yellowdoghunter

If they get the family pass can the childrens' father come with them?


30 posted on 04/28/2005 10:50:47 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Columbus Dawg
"We're no different than anyone else," said Carrie Scott, Heather's partner and the children's stepmother since the women's civil union ceremony in Vermont in 2002. "Our family is the same as the one across the street. It's a little different makeup, but we deserve the same as everyone else."

Obviously these guys failed biology class.

31 posted on 04/28/2005 10:51:04 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Columbus Dawg

Hey Heather!

YOU ARE NOT THE SAME! You are not a family!!! Playing house as you did as children, and pretending you are is not a family, it make believe, it playing at being a family, it's not real!!!


32 posted on 04/28/2005 10:58:57 AM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Columbus Dawg

"We're no different than anyone else," said Carrie Scott,"

Yeah, you are..you're queer.

And you are not a family any more than any other unmarried persons with kids are.

Deal with it. In fact, you should probably have the kids evaluated for abuse issues.


33 posted on 04/28/2005 11:01:58 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Flightdeck
"Choice-less behavior"?? Alcoholism may be considered "choice-less behavior", yet a drunk can still be arrested. Excessive anger may be in your makeup, yet we don't consider murder a "choice". just because life/acceptance within this society means you need to curb a desire (which may be stronger/weaker than the next person), doesn't mean "choice-less". "Black" or "Asian" is choice-less.....Homosexuality is not.
34 posted on 04/28/2005 11:02:08 AM PDT by blues-train (blues train)
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To: mlc9852
You are right, however, "choice less" is exactly what they are teaching in schools! Therein lies the danger of all this!
35 posted on 04/28/2005 11:05:02 AM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: gidget7

And it will only continue to get worse. Note the post on here today about the father being arrested for "trespass" at his son's elementary school when confronting the administration about not having his child involved with any homosexual circirrulum. Scary.


36 posted on 04/28/2005 11:06:40 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Columbus Dawg

Besides, that would be redundant.


37 posted on 04/28/2005 11:07:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Aggressively promote conservative judges!)
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To: mlc9852
if you go to article8.org, you can read about a lot more parents who did similar things this year after the day of silence. Some schools even held cross dressing day the following day.

there is a link on article8 website to massresistance that has more stories on it, about parents getting involved.
38 posted on 04/28/2005 11:09:42 AM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: blues-train

I don't consider alcoholism a choiceless behavior. Your analogies are off target. You said homosexuality is not choiceless, but you don't know that. Performing homo acts is certainly a choice, but being born a homosexual may very well be choiceless, just like race.


39 posted on 04/28/2005 11:11:32 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: Flightdeck

The state provides legal and tax advantages because it is trying to encourage certain behavior beneficial to the state. Since no benefit can be reasonable assumed or derived from a homosexual "marriage" the state should not reward it.

Want more of a behavior? Reward it.

Want less of a behavior? Remove the award.


40 posted on 04/28/2005 12:01:36 PM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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