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To: Gondring

"It will bring an ever lasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men."


Who are the 'false and designing men', Gondring?


268 posted on 04/30/2005 8:08:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
...or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.

Those who would weaken our Constitution to allow a takeover by militant Muslims or Communists or anyone else. But even if some FReepers of this thread are helping those groups, I wouldn't place them in that category, I like to believe you are all well-meaning but misguided.

Truly false and designing men would be those who intentionally want to harm the United States...such as many leftists...as well as those who don't mind if the US is harmed, such as many MSM personnel (yes, also leftists). Many of them are working to encourage more intrusive governmental presence, as well as division among good people of the country. They assist groups like CAIR, even if their goals are not aligned entirely.

279 posted on 04/30/2005 10:27:26 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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