Deductive logic on my part having read so many polls like these:
My thought is that of the 60% working scientists that rely on the bottom line for success, will begin an exodus toward ID, forcing a flip to 60% ID - 40% evolutionists.
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Deductive logic on my part having read so many polls like these:
This looks like the "imminent demise of Darwinism" that has been predicted for the last 150 years.
You'll have to explain your "deductive logic" to me to justify how you derived your conclusions from those links. I missed the bit in those 4 links that would allow anyone to realise that "working scientists" have a sharply different view from "academic scientists".
I have a sharp suspicion that your comments are about as well founded as the nonsense on your profile page.
Bad logic, The trends aren't in your favor
http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?ID=20311
The poll of 1,028 teenagers ages 13-17 found that 38 percent don't believe in evolution, believing instead that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Another 43 percent believe that humans "developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided" the process.
Adults actually are somewhat more likely not to believe in evolution. In a Gallup poll of adults last November, 45 percent said they believed in creationism while 38 percent believed that God guided the process of evolution. Only 13 percent of adults said they believed that evolution occurred without God's guidance.
So with adults it's 55-45 favoring evolution against Creationism while Teens it's 62-38.
And if you think Teens are going to turn to YEC later, Think again, From the Southern Baptist Convention.
-- 88 percent of the children raised in evangelical homes leave church at the age of 18, never to return.
Here are some excerpts of the links and a few more that I found on first blush:
God created humans in present form:
All Americans 55%
Kerry Voters 47%
Bush Voters 67%
Humans evolved, God guided the process:
All Americans 27%
Kerry Voters 28%
Bush Voters 22%
Humans evolved, God did not guide the process:
All Americans 13%
Kerry Voters 21%
Bush Voters 6%
Intelligent Design poll Ohio scientists
Nine out of 10 scientists (91 percent) felt the concept of intelligent design was unscientific and the same number responded that it was a religious view
A vast majority (93 percent) of the scientists were not aware of "any scientifically valid evidence or an alternate scientific theory that challenges the fundamental principles of the theory of evolution"
Almost all scientists (97 percent) said they did not use the intelligent design concept in their research
Ninety percent of the responding scientists stated that they felt no scientific evidence supports intelligent design, while 2 percent were unsure
Approximately 7 percent felt that intelligent design had some support from scientific evidence
Some 84 percent felt acceptance of the evolution theory was "consistent with believing in God"
PBS on the CBS Poll
However, a 2004 CBS News poll indicates why evolution remains a battleground in America. The poll found that just 13 percent say that God was not involved in the process of creating humans. Fifty-five percent said God created humans in their present form. Overall, about two-thirds of Americans want creationism taught along with evolution. Only 37 percent want evolutionism replaced outright. 60 percent of Americans who call themselves Evangelical Christians, however, favor replacing evolution with creationism in schools altogether, as do 50 percent of those who attend religious services every week. These findings echo those of a series of Gallup polls conducted in 1982, 1993, 1997, 1999 and 2001. In that series of polls no fewer than 44% of those responding subscribed to a strict creationist view.
There is some common ground among scientists and religious Americans. Forty percent of Americans hold that God "guided" evolution from simpler to more complex life forms over millions of years. Similarly, four out of ten middle-ranking scientists -- a random sample we took from American Men and Women of Science (AMWS) -- also believe that God "guided" evolution. These believing scientists also said in the survey that they can accept a God who answers prayers. This implies a God who intervenes in nature and the world, though we did not probe the God question further .
Only about 5 percent of the natural scientists we polled -- some 4,000 such professionals -- think that God created humans "pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years." While rare among scientists, this is the view held by nearly half of all Americans -- a striking figure, considering that fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals make up only a quarter to a third of the population.
To get a further sense of the American debate on evolution, this year we surveyed deans at theological seminaries about their schools' approach to the topic. Seventy percent of academic deans at schools in the Association of Theological Schools responded. (The ATS has 237 members.) We asked them which view of natural history and human origins predominates on their ca pus, and gave them five options:
"Theistic evolution," the belief that God works in and through the evolutionary process; "progressive creation," in which God creates at various points over millions of years; "young earth creation," according to which God created the cosmos within the past 10,000 years; or, a mixture of the first two categories or the latter two. About two-thirds of the deans indicated that their schools adhere to either theistic evolution, progressive creation or a mixture of the two -- all suggesting an ancient universe. Less than a tenth of the schools supported a young-earth stance. Most of the rest of the schools -- about 25 percent -- mix progressive creation and young-earth creation, both having an emphasis on God's intervening acts of special creation.
Catholic schools made up the largest proportion of those at which theistic evolution dominates (50 percent). As recently as 1996 the pope stated that evolution was "more than a hypothesis," as long as one accepts that God intervenes to create the soul. Slightly over a third of the Protestant schools and nearly a fifth of the nondenominational enclaves also were thoroughly evolutionist.
Young-earth creationism dominated at less than a tenth of the Protestant outposts and a fifth of the nondenominational schools. Progressive creation is the dominant view at less than a tenth of Protestant institutions, and barely more of Catholic. Nearly a third of the Catholic schools reported a mix of theistic evolution and progressive creation. Each of the mixed stances, moreover, is established at roughly a quarter of the Protestant and nondenominational schools.
On the basis of this data, we suspect that at one-third of the schools--the ones that are purely evolutionist--students struggle to understand God's creative acts and response to prayers in a material universe that runs according to strict laws. The young-earth schools solve this problem by believing that miracle override nature. The majority of the schools--nearly six in ten--try to combine the view of a material universe driven by natural laws with a God who, in principle, can miraculously intervene.
Overall, nearly seven in ten students (66 percent)--there were about 70,000 enrolled last year--study God and the Bible against the backdrop of belief in an ancient earth and universe. That antiquity for them included evolution--total or in part--of life, a process that nearly all scientists define as purposeless, unguided, random.
USAToday on a Poll of Teachers
A National Science Teachers Association (NSTA) e-mail survey gauges how much pressure science teachers report feeling about evolution instruction in their classrooms:
31% say they "feel pressured to include creationism, Intelligent Design, or other alternatives to evolution in their science classroom." More of the pressure comes from students (22%) and parents (20%.)
30% agree that "they feel pushed to de-emphasize or omit evolution or evolution-related topics from their curriculum."
85% say they did "feel well prepared to explain the reasons why it is important for students to understand evolution." 11% said they did not.
74% disagree, while about 19% agree, when asked if "they must de-emphasize or omit from their lessons the term 'evolution' so as not to draw attention to it."
CSICOP on Gallup polling complaining about the wording effecting the results
Consider the most basic evolution polls: A series of surveys conducted over the years by the Gallup Organization and the General Social Survey. Gallup's polls show that 46 percent of respondents (on average) believe "God created man pretty much in his present form at one time within the last 10,000 years" and another 38 percent believe "Man has developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process, including man's creation." Just 10 percent believe "Man has developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life. God had no part in this process," while 6 percent don't know. But the General Social Survey asked a different question. These polls found (on average) that 14 percent of Americans consider the statement "human beings developed from earlier species of animals" to be definitely true and another 29 percent consider it probably true, while 15 percent said "probably not true" and 33 said "definitely not true" (9 percent didn't know).
43 percent of Americans considering evolution to be at least probably true (General Social Survey) doesn't seem so hard to reconcile with 48 percent of Americans believing in some form of evolution, guided or unguided (Gallup). But now consider a 2001 Gallup poll that used very different wording, explicitly mentioning "evolution" instead of speaking of life forms having "developed" over time. When the question took this form--"Would you say that you believe more the theory of evolution or the theory of creationism to explain the origin of human beings, or are you unsure"--the respective results were 28 percent, 48 percent, and 14 percent, with 10 percent saying they didn't know. Here the level of affirmative support for evolution came out dramatically lower, an effect that seems attributable to question wording and the differing choices presented to poll respondents.
Conversely, a professor looking for advancement in the academia would not mention his beliefs about God at all.
There is a trend, bondserv. The greatest evidence for it is the long term polling by Gallup from 1982-2001 namely, that the number of strict creationists remains stable at about 44% despite all the graduates from higher education over the past 20 years, the public education commitment to evolution and the mainstream media. IOW, the numbers suggest that Americans are more likely to obtain or rekindle a belief in God as Creator than retain a belief which ignores Him.
This bodes very well for Intelligent Design supporters! IOW, it doesnt seem to matter what influence publicly funded education wields people at large will be inclined towards a view which includes a Designer.