Posted on 04/20/2005 8:26:42 AM PDT by agsloss
Lancaster, PA, Apr. 18 (UPI) -- Part 1 of 2. Where are the autistic Amish? Here in Lancaster County, heart of Pennsylvania Dutch country, there should be well over 100 with some form of the disorder. I have come here to find them, but so far my mission has failed, and the very few I have identified raise some very interesting questions about some widely held views on autism. The mainstream scientific consensus says autism is a complex genetic disorder, one that has been around for millennia at roughly the same prevalence. That prevalence is now considered to be 1 in every 166 children born in the United States. Applying that model to Lancaster County, there ought to be 130 Amish men, women and children here with Autism Spectrum Disorder. Well over 100, in rough terms. Typically, half would harbor milder variants such as Asperger's Disorder or the catch-all Pervasive Development Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified -- PDD-NOS for short. So let's drop those from our calculation, even though "mild" is a relative term when it comes to autism. That means upwards of 50 Amish people of all ages should be living in Lancaster County with full-syndrome autism, the "classic autism"...
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I have identified three Amish residents of Lancaster County who apparently have full-syndrome autism, all of them children. A local woman told me there is one classroom with about 30 "special-needs" Amish children. In that classroom, there is one autistic Amish child. Another autistic Amish child does not go to school. The third is that woman's pre-school-age daughter. If there were more, she said, she would know it. What I learned about those children is the subject of the next column.
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The Terri Schiavo thing killed me, as it probably did you. I know it will have majorly mobilized the disabilities community.
Gee, I hate it when I miss something obvious like that!
I wouldn't have considered that a lecture, at least in the academic sense of the word. You seemed to be overly defensive of studies in general, without defining anything. That's what caught my attention.
I'm not terribly impressed with titles -- actually, less so the older I get.
What kind of scientist are you? I consider myself somewhat of a scientist in the science of living life and learning from it as I go along. I consider that my responsibility whether or not I have gotten certified by others, but I would be interested in hearing more about your calling and credits if you care to share.
Bad news for you, another true believer: fluoride in your water displaces iodine in your body, being more unstable and seeking a bond, and over time your health IS affected by it -- just like all the "tin-foil hatters" tried to tell you. Check it out on your Table of the Elements -- they're in the same column.
Thanks a lot for this!
You didn't ask me, but I'll hazard a response.
I think you're wise to hold off, and the response you got from your doctor is typical and inexplicable. I always wonder: if they know it ISN'T something, they should be able to answer what it IS. They never do. I would start researching on the 'net and see if you can learn anything, and connect with a doctor (MD if possible) who shares your skepticism and has some expertise in this area. I wish I knew someone to recommend offhand.
In the meantime you might try giving home-produced juices with liver-supporting stuff, like carrots for starters. It's just a thought. Supporting the liver when you have any toxic situation seems like it would be a good idea. For more juicing ideas, check for Norman Walker's books at your local full-service health food store (something better than GNC, in other words).
What is pitocin induction delivery.. I don't understand it very well? But after seeing this thread and surfing the net for more information it seems to come up a lot with multiple mental problems.
You're getting the picture: it's a continuum of damage, with multiple possible causes but some that are being dished out constantly willy-nilly to a dumbed-down population that worships medical "science.
I happen to have realized one day that people even with fancy titles are just human beings. And are susceptable to the same misconceptions, dogmas and ignorance as others. And many professionals also are taken in by the orthodoxy of their profession.
Our science is not good at dealing with issues that have multiple problems. Actually humans in general aren't good at dealing with multi-variable problems. We like to reduce things to one problem, sort of a good versus evil thinking. When in reality there can be many variables of differing strengths.
Look at our laboratory tests they only look at one variable at a time. But in the real world there is hundreds of variables going on. Luckily a few scientists have started doing tests including multiple factors, on cell damage anyway that I was reading about a while back. They are difficult to do though..
The latest lies: it's not connected to vaccines after all, and it was always there but now we're just diagnosing it better.
As you say it doesn't make sense. There is no way it was around to the same degree before, and there is no way any naturally occuring genetic problem would be so prevelant, from an evolutionary point of view.
The stakes are pretty high.
Gee, I missed that one, and our son is most accurately an Asperger's/retarded -- though he qualifies as an autistic on Stanford's look-see (eight out of a possible 16 items, past or present).
Its easier for most to not have their assumptions challenged. If you broke their faith on the CDC's integrity or competence, it would call into question everything they have done. Which isn't easy to handle. So its easier to not think about it, unless they are personally affected.
For me: I have no regard whatsoever for people touting the "AMA/FDA party line" when they have no personal investment in the issue but are just interested observers mouthing secondhand nonsense. It is refreshing to get a comment by someone who has their brain in gear -- thank you so much!
Thanks I am glad you are looking into this issue and bringing it up. I want to have kids in a few years, so I would like to increase their chances of growing up to be healthy adults.
I try to be objective in my thinking. Not letting pre-conceived notions, blind belief, or pride get in the way of the truth. Its easier said then done though.
I haven't read about this issue for long, so I dont' know what to think yet. All I know for certain is autism should be a rare occurence not a common ailment.
The whole concept of the homeopathic mode is the avoidance of overwhelming the body and works whether you're talking about nosodes (for immune-building against disease entities) or sensory integration therapy (vs. sensorimotor integration) or modulated electromagnetic stimulation of the brain (vs. electroshock "therapy" for depression, etc.)
Western medicine has bombed -- again. It's great for acute care but stinks on prevention and healing without further trauma -- flies right out the window with the "first do no harm" idea.
I gotta agree, but it's not causing autism. I wish it were that easy.
We're about to try a combination of HBOT (hyperbaric oxygen therapy) along with Dr. Hammesfahr's approach with vasodilating drugs/natural supplements. He's the doc that Terri Schiavo's parents wanted to use with her, and given what we've learned about the effect of vasodilation on our son from other modalities (probably less effective, however), we're going to give this a try. There's information on the internet about both HBOT and Dr. H, and he does combine the two.
Well, I tried. That's more credit than I can give you.
I'd check it out on the internet. I know about it, but I'm not an expert on this issue; I just know it exists.
What makes you think he's autistic?
I should have anticipated this question, but I'm so used to thinking about it that it didn't occur to me that it might be unfamiliar to someone. Also, it's kind of "invisible" inasmuch as they just do an IV drip on mom during labor.
It's a form of bringing on labor without the benefit of true feedback that looks out for the baby's welfare other than tracking his heart rate. It's imposed from the outside and uses a non-natural form of stimulation that mimics the body's own system but is actually foreign (including a foreign protein). I mention the effects of it, which are (at least) fourfold elsewhere in the thread, and a study based in Japan that exhibits its tremendous impact (19% autism rate in the most extreme usage).
Actually humans in general aren't good at dealing with multi-variable problems.
Yes, and it gets worse as you get older! You gain wisdom but lose the faculty to use it as effectively!
And many professionals also are taken in by the orthodoxy of their profession.
The definition of "professional" is something I was taught right out of high school, that it has a lot to do with attitude and ethics and not so much with the letters after one's name, per se. It's always refreshing to get a response from another poster that is inquisitive, genuine and informative. Thanks!
You have a rare gift: the ability to zero in on the key point, and you have nailed it with this issue. You will find answers because you know how to ignore the distractions.
The skyrocketing numbers of autistic children across the United States are starting to test society's ability to treat them. The demand for services has outpaced the supply of therapists as parents waste critical months on a waiting list just to get diagnosed.
http://www.autisticsociety.org/article653.html
My research on the internet was slim pickin's. It is easier said than executed.
The one example we did see did not pass the kook test.
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