>> Liberal U.S. Catholics on Tuesday expressed dismay at the choice of a conservative new pope <<
There are no liberal Catholics. There are some leftists who pretend to be Catholics, but they are not Catholics.
Then why should we care what you think? Would a rabbi pay attention to me, a Catholic, if I expressed what I thought Judaism should do? He would be polite, listen, and then likely give me a variant of "Thanks, but your opinion carries no weight in our community due to vast theological differences."
A "non-practicing" (read: "fallen away" or "apostate") CINO's words have no weight....they are just so much carbon dioxide being produced and distributed.
I am not a Catholic, but I am glad the Catholic church hierarchy has a backbone and really doesn't give a hoot what the liberal, anti reglion types care about the pick. I have my disagreements with the Catholic church, but it does bring a smile to my face to see the liberals whine like a bunch of swines today.
Too many other churches, like the Episcopal church have lost their missions because they bow to compromise from every little special interest group that is offended by absolutes.
My good G-D"Alex Marko"you do not know good G-D good G-D do not change!!!!truth is truth G-D is truth!!! life is life love is love good G-D do know 1 2 3 4 this is no!no!!no!!!no!!!!what persons do want this this is not important what G-D do want this is important!!!!I do feel many persons do not know truth!!!Benedictum XVI is very strong person this person do know Izrael good persons yes many news persons do not like this person I do will write no news persons O.K news persons do not know this person well!!!Thank you all
Yeah, well they can bite me.
Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, was raised Catholic but left the church in 1986 after former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger -- the new Pope Benedict XVI -- issued a letter to the bishops on the "pastoral care of homosexual persons." The letter described gays as "intrinsically disordered" and homosexuality as a "tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil."
"I think most of us who were gay and Catholic will never forget when Ratzinger's letter came out. It was so stunning in both its breadth and depth of condemnation," Foreman said. "The Cardinals have elected the most outspoken and venomous opponent of equal rights for gay people in the Catholic church's hierarchy." Around the country gays and lesbians responded to the news of the new pope with incredulity and concern, citing Ratzinger's history of speaking out against gay marriage and adoption and inclusion of gays in the Catholic church.
"My initial reaction as a gay, Catholic man is disbelief and sadness, almost depression," said Gino Ramos, the co-chair of the gay Catholic organization Dignity/San Francisco. "My heart sank when I heard the name Joseph, and I said, 'Oh my God, bless us all.' "
Local chapters of DignityUSA used to meet on church property, but after members publicly rejected the Vatican's 1986 letter, they were no longer welcome, said Sam Sinnett, the national president.
To this day, members meet at non-Catholic churches instead; Dignity/San Francisco, which has around 85 members, gathers at Seventh Avenue Presbyterian Church in the Sunset District. "After that letter was promulgated, we felt like we were in exile," Ramos said.
Maurice Healy, spokesperson for the Archdiocese of San Francisco, said, "We don't reject gay and lesbian people. They're part of the church as much as anyone else. But they're also called to the same teachings of the church as everyone else is called to." He was not able to immediately confirm the policy toward the organization Dignity in the Archdiocese of San Francisco.
Gay advocates pointed to several other occasions when Pope John Paul II publicly spoke out against homosexuality or gay rights -- and note that Ratzinger was the late pope's chief enforcer of doctrinal orthodoxy. A 1999 order submitted by Ratzinger and approved by the late former pope permanently barred Sister Jeannine Gramick and the Rev. Robert Nugent, who were based in Maryland at that time, from any pastoral work involving gays or lesbians. The two were sanctioned because they had failed to communicate the church's teachings regarding the "intrinsic evil of homosexual acts."
A 2003 Vatican document on legal recognition of same-sex unions signed by Ratzinger said that "the legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil" and that allowing gays to adopt children would "actually mean doing violence to these children."
While the statements reflected the intent of the papacy, Sinnett said, "I don't think there's any question that they must reflect what he believes." Such language, he said, "makes it very difficult for people in good conscience who are looking for moral leadership to properly integrate their spirituality and their sexuality."
Foreman said he was concerned that gays and lesbians would face worse treatment by the Catholic Church under the new pope, but some gay Catholics said they held out hope that, in his new role, Pope Benedict XVI would have a different approach to the gay members of his flock.
"While I have grave concerns about it based on what he's written in the last 20 years, we're still going to keep praying to the Holy Spirit that his heart and mind will be opened," said gay Catholic Paul Riofski, 47, of Antioch. "We'll continue to pray for the Holy Spirit to grant him enlightenment about who we are."
Hmmmmm....
Let's see:
Abortion is still murder.
Priests will still celebrate the Mass. There will be no Prisetesses.
Divorce still rates as Excommunication
Homosexuality is still Sacrilige
Seems like nothing much has changed since Pope John Paul II. Nor shall it.
Can't see for the life of me why the Liberal and Cafeteria Catholics are PO'ed.
Jack.
You mean he actually taught Catholic doctrine !!!!
HOW DARE HE!!
I think it's very revealing that the libs, gays and leftist media are all so upset about our new Pope.. to me it's very revealing, in that, it indicates a guilty conscience, because deep deep down, they do know the 'TRUTH'.
LOL, as if Ratzinger is going to advocate harming the young. This is funny, because now the left is portraying JP II as some kind of passionate pope after beating him up for being too harsh. According to liberals, JP II's policies were responsible for the spread of AIDS and all the scandals, now they are defending him as compassionate.
Woah. Only 24 hours after his election, he's getting the talk from the liberal swine.
Better put some ice on that!"
Reuters is really coming out strong against the new pope.
They have several articles bashing him.
ff
Liberal catholics!! Go join another church and stop trying to change ours. I'm sick of these people, there are tons of other churches that allow the things these people deem important.
ping to 152, 155 and 157.