[royalcello]

I'm with ValenB4. Without the evil Wilson's interference, the war probably would have ended either with a German/Austrian outright victory or a negotiated settlement prior to November 1918 as desired by Pope Benedict XV. Instead, American involvement (which revived the embattled Allied cause) resulted in the tragic destruction of the last remnants of Christendom, the ancient German and Austro-Hungarian monarchies, a calamity which paved the way for Hitler and Stalin and from which Europe has still not recovered.

The first three years of the war were indeed nonideological. But with the fall of the Russian monarchy and the entry of the US in 1917, the character of the war was transformed into a very ideological conflict between the forces of "Progress" & "Democracy" (the Allies) and Tradition & Monarchy (the Central Powers), a conflict in which as a monarchist I stand firmly with the latter, as do all true conservatives.

The US has waged many unjustified wars since 1898, but World War I was the worst. I hope Wilson is burning in Hell.

[ValenB4]

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[Sonny M]

"Progress" & "Democracy" (the Allies) and Tradition & Monarchy (the Central Powers), a conflict in which as a monarchist I stand firmly with the latter, as do all true conservatives.

So you support monarchies over democracy.

Interesting.

Not to say support of democracy, but one could conclude that you would have called the founding fathers evil for fighting against "tradition and monarchy".

[Southack]

"I'm with ValenB4. Without the evil Wilson's interference, the war probably would have ended either with a German/Austrian outright victory or a negotiated settlement prior to November 1918 as desired by Pope Benedict XV."

Nonsense. Quite to the contrary, U.S. forces were required to end both WW1 and WW2 stalemates (Germany could not conquer Britain, Britain could not beat Germany).

Moreover, after the U.S. ended the first stalemate, the Europeans started up the whole nonsensical affair again a mere few short years after U.S. troops left Europe.

After we ended their second round of senseless war, we chose to keep our troops in Europe rather than bring them home; where they remain today (and as long as they've been there, the major European powers have behaved themselves).

[Southack]

"The US has waged many unjustified wars since 1898, but World War I was the worst. I hope Wilson is burning in Hell."

President Wilson was awful, but he was the least bad of all of the major world leaders in that war.

Nor could it be argued that he "waged" The Great War, as it was started 3 years prior to U.S. troops landing in Europe to end it.

Wilson's peace treaty proposals were far more humanitarian than what the French and British forced upon the Germans, too. That he was out-diplomacied on that point was a failure of his leadership, not of his morality or inherent weal (to the detriment of that following generation of Europeans, too).