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Minuteman founder leaving border early but volunteers to remain [Minuteman Project declares victory]
Associated Press ^ | 18 Apr 2005 | Arthur Rotstein

Posted on 04/18/2005 2:39:17 PM PDT by Spiff

Minuteman founder leaving border early but volunteers to remain

By Arthur H. Rotstein

ASSOCIATED PRESS

1:32 p.m. April 18, 2005

TUCSON, Ariz. – The chief organizer of civilian volunteers who are spending the month watching for illegal immigrants and smugglers along the Mexican border is pulling out of the Minuteman Project early, a project official said Monday.

Jim Gilchrist, a retired accountant from California, will leave Arizona on Wednesday and plans to appear before the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus next week in Washington. He will be taking the official Minuteman Project name and a group of volunteers.

"He is claiming victory ... so he felt it would be appropriate to wrap up his participation this week and prepare to go to Washington," said Chris Simcox, the project's field operations director.

Simcox, who also plans to be in Washington next week, said Gilchrist isn't severing his ties to the project or with other organizers.

Despite Gilchrist's departure and Simcox's temporary absence, Simcox said patrols will continue as planned until April 30, albeit under the name of Simcox's organization – Civil Homeland Defense.

The volunteers, some of whom are armed, arrived on April 1 and began spreading out a few days later along a 23-mile stretch of desert between the border communities of Naco and Douglas. They alert authorities when they see someone cross the border illegally, but are not allowed to detain anyone.

Law enforcement officials have said they fear the project will lead to vigilante violence, an accidental confrontation between armed volunteers and authorities, or a dangerous encounter with the violent smugglers who use the area.

The volunteers claim their reports have led the Border Patrol to more than 260 illegal immigrants. The Border Patrol has acknowledged receiving more than 300calls from Naco and Douglas, resulting in hundreds of apprehensions, but the agency will not say whether any calls came from project volunteers.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderintruders; borderinvasion; criminalinvaders; gilchrist; mmp
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To: MinuteGal
Turfguarding. Minuteman Project makes the brass look as inept as they are. LEO, as far as I have seen, is limited to the sheriffs. Rank and file BP have come out in favor of citizen patrols, AFAIK.
21 posted on 04/18/2005 3:47:12 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Ben Ficklin

This crap has been reported before and it is....crap. Minuteman Project isn't even operating in Douglas. I guess these businesses rely upon drooling morons - yup, gotta protect that drooling moron demographic.


22 posted on 04/18/2005 3:51:09 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Travis McGee; wardaddy; Boot Hill; in the Arena; Marine Inspector; HiJinx; shellshocked; ...

Especially whenever the subject matter demands politically correct handling...


23 posted on 04/18/2005 3:55:36 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Spiff

Are you saying that the man that owns the tack shop is a liar, drooler, moron?


24 posted on 04/18/2005 3:55:49 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: amihow

Actually, the way that Hannity "phrases" his concern, ie. terrorists after 9/11, is about the only way you will hear Congress talk about this, except for some really smart, brave Republicans---

I predice Jeff Sessions may be one.

The problem is ALL of them are politicians that need votes and none of them would want to offend the Mexican-American vote---therefore, they will frame it as a "terrorism" problem rather than a societal problem (which bothers me a lot).


25 posted on 04/18/2005 3:59:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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Law enforcement officials have said they fear the project will lead to vigilante violence, an accidental confrontation between armed volunteers and authorities, or a dangerous encounter with the violent smugglers who use the area.

Arthur Rotstein has concrete evidence that the press' fears were not to be realized, and yet he still parrots the AP's hoped-or outcome.

He must think this is to a self-fulfilling prophecy.

26 posted on 04/18/2005 4:08:41 PM PDT by HiJinx (My Momma tol' me that if you gotta sneak, you're wrong...and you know it.)
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To: MinuteGal
Local law enforcement and the U.S. Border Patrol will absolutely NOT give the Minutemen credit for anything at all, ever

That's probably more Presstitution in action, Leni. I just pinged a WND article that says the BP Union's website is praising the MMP, and goes directly against Andrea Zortman's (Naco BP supervisor) comment in the Houston Chronicle that said the agents were lying.

Also, I'm very much aware of our local Sheriff's feelings and I don't believe Rotstein is portraying him honestly.

27 posted on 04/18/2005 4:14:15 PM PDT by HiJinx (My Momma tol' me that if you gotta sneak, you're wrong...and you know it.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Good afternoon.

Ben, citing anything coming out of Corvallis about anything patriotic makes you look foolish and uninformed.

Of course I apologize profusely if I missed that you were being sarcastic

Michael Frazier
28 posted on 04/18/2005 4:18:18 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Ben Ficklin; Spiff
Are you saying that the man that owns the tack shop is a liar, drooler, moron?

Actually, Ben, we're dealing with a non sequitor here. Legal commerce between citizens in border towns is the topic of the article at the link you posted. (That is what you were linking to, right?)

The MMP is about illegal aliens sneaking into the country.

Apples and oranges.

You do see that, don't you?

29 posted on 04/18/2005 4:20:45 PM PDT by HiJinx (My Momma tol' me that if you gotta sneak, you're wrong...and you know it.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Are you saying that the man that owns the tack shop is a liar, drooler, moron?

If his business was pandering to illegals, and it's now decreased, that's what he gets for not being an honest and LEGAL proprieter. Read my tag line and add dishonest, disloyal proprieters. Mexican's don't come here to spend money, the exchange rate is worthless, we go to Mexico to buy cheap goods.

30 posted on 04/18/2005 4:23:13 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (Illegals and OBL’s - profiting from the destruction of America with no visible signs of remorse.)
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To: Spiff

"The volunteers, some of whom are armed..."


LOL

i always imagine these limp wristed presstitute types squirming and breaking out in a cold sweat as they imagine the HORROR of some Americans packing.. maybe even wetting themselves.. lol..


31 posted on 04/18/2005 4:26:55 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: Ben Ficklin

What's your point?


32 posted on 04/18/2005 4:28:32 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Ben Ficklin

>>the tack shop is a liar, drooler, moron?<<

You are the one who brought the slanderous terminology into the debate.

Is that your opinion of the man?


33 posted on 04/18/2005 4:29:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
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To: ozarkgirl
Mexican's don't come here to spend money, the exchange rate is worthless,

You know what's really spooky? They do come here, and they do spend tons of money. Our Wal-Mart in Sierra Vista sells boat-loads of electronics, CDs, hardware, clothing, you name it that goes back across the border. One of the questions I've never heard mgmt answer is why do they bypass the Douglas store, 200 yds. from the Port of Entry, and spend their dollars in Sierra Vista, 50 miles away?

That doesn't change the fact that the MMP is about illegal aliens and the article Ben pinged is about legal shoppers.

34 posted on 04/18/2005 4:34:53 PM PDT by HiJinx (My Momma tol' me that if you gotta sneak, you're wrong...and you know it.)
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To: brazzaville

Its AP


35 posted on 04/18/2005 4:36:46 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: HiJinx

Forget the lunatic left media ~ they are irrelevant!


36 posted on 04/18/2005 4:44:02 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: B4Ranch

#22


37 posted on 04/18/2005 4:46:02 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: HiJinx
Cause and effect.

You can't win for losing.

38 posted on 04/18/2005 4:47:02 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Are you saying that the man that owns the tack shop is a liar, drooler, moron?

No, fool. Go read what I said again.

I said his customer are obviously morons because they stupidly think that a.)the Minuteman Project is a bunch of evil, gun-toting vigilantes who might do them harm and b.)the Minuteman Project is even operating in Douglas.

39 posted on 04/18/2005 4:47:08 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff
A big thanks goes to you and to all who are standing in the gap for those of us who can't be there. It's an incredibly brave thing you have done. It's very dangerous, and those of us who live in a border state know only too well, just how dangerous it really is.

That said, will you move on over to NM when you're through? LOL!

40 posted on 04/18/2005 4:47:52 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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