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Did Oklahoma City Bombers Have Help?
http://www.foxnews.com/index.html ^ | Saturday, April 16, 2005 | Fox

Posted on 04/16/2005 3:31:47 AM PDT by teldon30

One month after the April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City bombing (search) that killed 168 people, authorities demolished what was left of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building (search). Officials said the implosion was a necessary part of the psychological recovery for the citizens of Oklahoma City. But critics question the FBI’s tactics and argue the building came down too soon and the implosion is one piece of a government cover-up. Survivor VZ Lawton remembers the events after the attack. “I was in my office at my desk signing papers and all of a sudden the building began to shake,” said Lawton. “The lights went out, debris started falling and then something hit me on the head and knocked me out before the truck bomb ever went off.” Lawton and some others believe Timothy McVeigh (search) — who was convicted of federal conspiracy and murder charges in the bombing and executed in 2001 — and convicted conspirator Terry Nichols (search) weren't alone in plotting the attack. During the investigation the FBI circulated sketches of “John Does” and in response received thousands of conflicting tips from across the country.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; mcveigh; nichols; okcbombing; tpd; turass
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To: coloradan
Maybe you've seen UnderscoreJim on an OKC thread lately.    ???

 I noticed you sent him a crafty message here a year ago but he never showed up.

Hi, _Jim!!!!

121 posted on 04/16/2005 2:27:22 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Wallaby
Well, personally, I think the extra leg belonged to one of the Iraqi/Middle Eastern guys who was helping McVeigh & Nichols. He either didn't get out of the way fast enough, or he planned his "72 Virgins" martyrdom ahead of time.

And for any newbies who are reading, if you're wondering how someone could have gained prior access to the Murray building to plant explosives, you can go here to read about the shadowy security firm that had the Murrah Building contract at the time -- Teg Security. It's a long story running over 6 threads, but there's a good summary by Wallaby and others at the beginning of the 6th thread.

I just hope I live to see the day when all the truth about OKC comes out.  If not, you can bet I'll be cheering you guys on from up above!
122 posted on 04/16/2005 2:45:46 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
Well, personally, I think the extra leg belonged to one of the Iraqi/Middle Eastern guys who was helping McVeigh & Nichols. He either didn't get out of the way fast enough, or he planned his "72 Virgins" martyrdom ahead of time.

LOL!!!

In no way am I disagreeing with you, but what is bothering me is the shaved leg.

First, we can rule out anybody who was French.

Second, do Middle Eastern women shave their legs? I don’t know any so I ask this question sincerely.

123 posted on 04/16/2005 2:59:07 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Nita Nupress

Also, I wonder if a chromosome analysis of the leg was done to determine sex.


124 posted on 04/16/2005 3:09:01 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Battle Axe
But then if you stand back and look at the actions of our govt, you have to say....What is the motivation for this??

I remember reading something at that time about the motivation, but this was before FR; so I don’t know how correct this is. It sure sounds plasible, though, knowing our Clinton. Clinton had tried to push some kind of antiterrorist bill through congress and it was voted down. I have no idea what the bill was about other than he wanted it. Soon after came the bombing, and the bill was reintroduced, and it passed with flying colors.

Do you also remember that those folks in the alphabet agencies who had children in a daycare center in that building did not have their children in school that day?

126 posted on 04/16/2005 3:46:43 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Uncle Vlad
I know this is going to make someone ofer me more tinfoil for my hat, but in light of the fact that mass murderers and other monsters sit on death row for 20 years or more, doesn't it seem odd how fast they executed Timothy McVeigh?

Odd in comparison to what? McVeigh was the first Federal prisoner executed since 1963, so there aren't a lot of comparable recent cases. Then there's the fact that he dropped his appeals.

127 posted on 04/16/2005 3:51:33 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Nita Nupress
OMG, a distraction! Weird doesn't even start to describe it. I also remember your comments on the FBI raid on the Islamic "charity" in Texas days before 9/11. I believe you said there was something very big going on there, though we couldn't tell what yet...

I guess I missed the whole deal linking McV, Hurley and ER. Not to mention Asa. I sure do miss a lot of the folks who used to do research here--but not the shills like _Jim. He was soooo lame. I wonder if he got old, sick, dead, worn out or fired.

Please, if you get a feeling about something big about to happen, please ping me. I might want to pull the covers over my head. ;^}

128 posted on 04/16/2005 4:29:41 PM PDT by Sal
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

LOL! I don't know whether the ME wimmin shave their legs or not. And even more, how would you find out? ;-)

(I'm just assuming you already know the Jihad terrorists customarily shave their bodies before going to meet their virgins.)


129 posted on 04/16/2005 4:42:59 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Battle Axe

Hey, Battle Axe. Good to see ya.

Oh, you can BET they did all sorts of DNA and chromosomal and bone analysis on that leg, as well as other body parts they found. But that doesn't mean WE'LL ever hear about it.


130 posted on 04/16/2005 4:46:29 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Battle Axe

The "motivation" for the cover-up is most likely the stolen FBI files the clintons have in their possession. Plus, Joe Boucher posted a good explanation on #69 of this thread.

You can go here to see an explanation of why bill clinton covered it up: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1384537/posts?page=71#71

That's MY reasoning, anyway.


131 posted on 04/16/2005 4:52:31 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I meant to ping you to 131 also, but couldn't spell your name. ;-)


132 posted on 04/16/2005 4:53:59 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Sal
I guess I missed the whole deal linking McV, Hurley and ER. Not to mention Asa.

Well, I guess I did, too. I didn't read that entire thread. I stay confused enough with all the characters without bringing ER into it. LOL!

133 posted on 04/16/2005 4:56:50 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress

He's still active, but I'm glad he's finally stopped shilling for the Clintons on things like OKC and TWA800. Of course, as soon as I post this he'll be right back.


134 posted on 04/16/2005 5:42:53 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Bump!


135 posted on 04/16/2005 7:06:11 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: darbymcgill

darbymcgill, I seem to remember that there was a first floor transfer beam, that verticals from higher floors rested on- the vertical columns did not go to ground level but terminated on the transfer beam. This allowed for larger open spaces on the ground floor.

When the transfer beam failed, the columns collapsed and a huge chunk fell in.

If you then looked at pictures of the wreckage there was an area where it looked like there should have been columns sticking up from the floor but there were none.

Is my memory correct? is what I'm remembering as transfer beams the main horizontal supports you mention?

And, you were inside the perimeter post blast? What an experience that must have been. I'm sure not a pleasant one, but still, you were a firsthand witness to a really major event.


136 posted on 04/16/2005 8:13:51 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: kingsurfer

Sure they had help. Didn't gravity play a big role in this.


137 posted on 04/16/2005 8:16:36 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: teldon30

I would be inclined to suspect Islamic terrorists, except they usually like to have their cause well known. Certainly, by now some group would have sent a tape to al Jazeera claiming to have pulled off OK, TWA, or any others they could claim, if there was a chance at all of claiming it.


138 posted on 04/16/2005 8:26:59 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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