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Tribune Figures For LA Times Circulation Drop Contradict Earlier Announcement
LA Times Watch ^

Posted on 04/15/2005 6:36:41 PM PDT by prfix

Today's Tribune announcement of a 5.5% circulation drop at the LA Times appears to contradict numbers reportedly posted at the LA Times website:

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: California
KEYWORDS: circulation; lat; latimesbias; liberalmedia; media
Today's Tribune announcement of a 5.5% circulation drop at the LA Times appears to contradict numbers reportedly posted at the LA Times website:

On October 28, 2004, Tribune announced a "circulation decline" (note they did not admit to "inflated circulation") at the LA Times to a daily circulation of 902,164.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000693105

Today they again announce a 5.5% decline yet the circulation figure posted at the LA Times' website is 983,727 according to this BizJournals article posted here earlier.

http://www.bizjournals.com/losangeles/stories/2005/04/11/daily60.html

Can anyone explain this?

1 posted on 04/15/2005 6:36:41 PM PDT by prfix
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To: prfix

Let's just go with the lower figure and be happy.


2 posted on 04/15/2005 6:52:50 PM PDT by speedy
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To: speedy

you're probably right but inquiring minds want to know.


3 posted on 04/15/2005 7:05:18 PM PDT by prfix
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To: speedy

I'm doing a dance tonite.............i am part of the DECLINE!!!!!


4 posted on 04/15/2005 7:07:42 PM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: Republic Rocker

Good for you!! I got to be part of the decline of the late 90s when I lived in LA. Then I moved to New York and became part of the decline of the NY Times. And now I'm in Boston contributing to the decline of the Boston Globe -- I won't even pick up the office copy. I move around the country just to watch newspaper circulations collapse!! It's fun -- the whole family can play.


5 posted on 04/15/2005 7:19:51 PM PDT by speedy
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To: prfix
Free papers to entice new customers that really go to the gate guard.
6 posted on 04/15/2005 7:32:41 PM PDT by Domangart (4+)
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To: Republic Rocker
...i am part of the DECLINE!!!!!

Good on ya'. We'll take the MSM down one newspaper, one channel click at a time.

7 posted on 04/15/2005 7:34:32 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: prfix

I can't explain this specific case, but there are all sorts of numbers that are looked at in terms of newspaper circulation.

Examples:
1. Daily vs. Sunday (usually a big difference).
2. Subscriber vs. Total (which includes sales from newsstands and machines).


8 posted on 04/15/2005 8:24:04 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: prfix

5.5% decline...surely that can be improved on.


9 posted on 04/15/2005 8:31:36 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: prfix

Milwaukee Urinal Sentinal earnings are down 16%


10 posted on 04/15/2005 9:16:46 PM PDT by gogipper
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To: prfix
Like Col. John "Hannibal" Smith always to used to say on The A-Team, "I love it when a plan comes together." I love it when the Lefty Los Angeles Times keeps hemorrhaging readers. Every day, they find a new way to keep turning off people. Michael Kinsley, John Carroll and Company on Spring Street must be doing something right. Congratulations!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
11 posted on 04/15/2005 10:20:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Justanobody

This is a mess that can't be improved or fixed. I read Sunday papers...and the USA Today two or three times a week...but the normal daily paper...just isn't worth picking up...even at 50 cents. This is the modern times that we live in...and daily papers are just dying out.


12 posted on 04/15/2005 10:50:15 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
This is a mess that can't be improved or fixed.

Clearly, you misunerstood my comment. I was advocating for a 50-75.5% decline, believing that 5.5% decline was not nearly enough.

13 posted on 04/16/2005 7:39:33 AM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: prfix

inflated accounting numbers are only important when corporations such as citibank, enron, world com, qwest, etc mis-report.

they are not important when the media who reported on these mis-reports, mis-report themselves. (/s)


14 posted on 04/16/2005 7:43:38 AM PDT by ken21 ( wasn't fr supposed to be a place to discuss ideas?)
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To: Domangart

Correction: the gate guard's dog and birdcage.


16 posted on 04/16/2005 11:04:41 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: speedy
What's really important is the integrity of the auditing system which is supposedly supervised by the Audit Bureau of Circulations (ABC). Why the ABC allowed the LA Times to conduct a "simultaneous" audit last September is a question that has not been answered.

http://www.geocities.com/truthmasters/watch04-4.html#1031

Apart from public confidence in the system, this information is of particular importance to advertisers since the rates they pay are dependent on circulation numbers.
17 posted on 04/16/2005 9:07:48 PM PDT by prfix
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