Posted on 04/15/2005 1:05:20 PM PDT by phenn
Baloney. DNR is synonymous with Let her live ... unless her heart fails. A do-not-resuscitate (DNR) order tells medical professionals not to perform CPR. That's what the "R" in CPR means.
"You left out the important legislation that occurred in 1998 that made hearsay evidence permissible in these types of cases."
That was already there in the court case. Florida simply took findings and codified them into law. The precedent existed in 1990 -- the law just made it easier.
Judge Greer listened to their testimony. What are you talking about?
Judge Greer did not accept Dr. Hammesfahr's testimony because the good doctor, after being asked repeatedly, could not document anything he claimed. The doctor's testimony was a sham.
Geez, I wonder why?
I already pointed out one of your lies: "... and then turn around the next year after receiving the money and say that she would not want to be kept alive like this."
Another is: "The judge admitted that her (Diane Meyer's) testimony was VALID ...". Judge Greer ruled that the conversation could NOT have taken place in 1982 as Diane Meyer testified. It's in the friggin' court order, for crying out loud. Read these documents before you spout off with your propaganda.
Obviously, your definition of WHAT THE MONEY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR is wrong. Wrong again. What's new?
I'm saying you can't have it both ways. You can't repeatedly sue a guy (all frivolous, by the way) and expect money to be left in the fund.
You want more money in the fund? Is THAT your priority? Then condemn the Schindler's for suing.
I don't get YOUR logic.
Robert, Have you thought about trying to find a job?
Of course you'll need some references that say you're easy to work with and get along with. There must be one person in your life who could write one for you.
Get outside, smell the flowers. Find some employment if you can.
Was the purpose of the therapy to make her look better? I don't understand.
I bet you were real disappointed in the outcome of the Mae Magouirk case where a judge actually stepped in and saved this woman's life and went against the efforts of a murderous granddaughter.
A rebel without a cause. What will you do now (other than make personal attacks, that is)?
So did he put DNR on her then because it was her wish or not? When in your expert opinion did he recall what her wishes were?
That was already there in the court case. Florida simply took findings and codified them into law. The precedent existed in 1990 -- the law just made it easier.
Read it for yourself.
August 1997 - New attorney for Michael Schiavo, George Felos, notifies the Schindlers that Michael was going to have the feeding tube removed. May 1998 - George Felos files a petition to have Terri's feeding tube removed. April 1999 - House Bill 2131 was introduced in the legislature by the Florida Elder Affairs & Long-Term Care Committee to amend Section 765 (Civil Rights) of the Florida Statutes. Amendments to Section 765.101 = legal definition of life prolonging procedures to add: "INCLUDING ARTIFICIALLY PROVIDED SUSTENENCE AND HYDRATION, WHICH SUSTAINS, RESTORES, OR SUPPLANTS A SPONTANEOUS VITAL FUNCTION". It becomes law on October 1, 1999.
The only sham was the court trial. The Doctor said she could possibly be rehabilited Greer wanted proof. Greer was aking for the impossible.
GREER ADMITTED THIS WAS HIS MISTAKE.
My version of what the money was supposed to be used for was based on why it was received in the first place. It was for Terris medical expenses. Judge Greer decided it was ok to spend Terris medical expense money on Michael quest to have her killed. Oh yes I forgot you are part of the Judge Greer and Michael Shiavlo can do no wrong club. Yes if Judge Greer does something it must be right. Man maybe you should be his groupie.
I could care less if there is money in Terris fund after she is dead. The only people who would care about that are people who are concerned that Michael should have nice cars. Why should I condemn the Shindlers for trying to save their daughter. Had they not done what they did sure there would be more money in Terris fund - but Terri would not benefit from that money because SHE WOULD BE DEAD. Your logic is completely off base.
On the advice of her doctor.
"Read it for yourself."
I did. The law simply put in writing the court decision arrived at back in 1990 in the Browning case.
Instead of reading the St Pete Times for the source of your information why don't you read some of the court documents: READ the bottom of page 4 top of page 5, where it describes the difference of opinion about what the falling out was over.
http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/122998%20Schiavo%20Richard%20Pearse%20GAL%20report.pdf
"Was the purpose of the therapy to make her look better? I don't understand."
No not at all, but that follows that a person would look better. I simply meant that if one does not get therapy or attention at all, muscles atrophy rapidly. She didn't have a fair chance. Once MS had the settlement check, he put her into a nursing home to die. He refused her any type of therapy, even ordered the curtains closed. No stimulation, no swallow tests. Early on she had some but that was stopped. Even stroke victims have to relearn what the damaged part of the brain no longer performs. It takes years many times. She wasn't given a fair chance.Not by MS, not by Greer, IMO. They pushed for death. There was no reason for that sweet lady to die like that.
So it had nothing to do with Terris wish to not live this way. Ok I am going to give you that one because you know I think you are right for once. I don't think Mike ever took any of the steps he took to end Terris life based on a recolection of her wish to die. I think he made that all up - because well lets face it she wasn't dying on her own accord.
Browning, of Dunedin, had written a living will in 1985, saying she did not want to be kept alive by artificial means if she ever became ill.
Big difference.
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