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Bush: No passports at borders
Fox.com ^ | 4/15 | Fox News

Posted on 04/15/2005 6:49:37 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility

WASHINGTON — Plans requiring passports from people entering the United States don't pass muster with President Bush

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: border; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegal; illegalaliens; immigration; minuteman; passports
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To: Alex Marko
American voters have a short memory span.

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Not conservative American voters.

81 posted on 04/15/2005 7:26:50 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: RockyMtnMan
You mean like punishing businesses who hire illegals?

How about we first fire border patrol agents that let these people in?

82 posted on 04/15/2005 7:26:57 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
You edited out some of the important text, hence taking it out of context, troll. If you want to trash President Bush, head to DU. The complete thought on the comment to chose to pick out reads:

The poster put the exact headline as reported by Fox, and placed the first line of the report as reported by Fox, and then placed a link to the story. What more do you want, and why do you feel it necessary to say he was trashing the President, calling him a troll and referring him to DU.

Many of us believe that with amnesty proposals, open border policies, refusal to take President Fox to task for his enabling of illegal immigration and drugs, and now this, that the President is not really interested in fighting the WOT here, but only overseas. That does not make us trolls.

I read the article, and his calling for a review in the visible manner he did and using the language he did clearly announces his diapproval of the program.

83 posted on 04/15/2005 7:28:03 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: sheana
I agree that more needs to be done, but don't see the harm in requiring passports. Everyone should have one, we use them to go to Canada all the time. Much quicker than a driver's license.
84 posted on 04/15/2005 7:28:11 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Thank you RBA! I really dislike these folks who "excerpt" an article by posting just one or two sentences. This can be very misleading and lead to much confusion.
85 posted on 04/15/2005 7:28:35 AM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Pondman88
Half a million a year at gated entry points verse how many millions along ungaurded borders????

If your not worried about the half million coming through the ports of entry, then you can't be worried about the 2 or 3 million coming between then.

I just think there has got to be a better way than,

If you find one let me know. I've been doing this for 7 years and have not thought of one yet.

inconvenience of getting a passport

What's more inconvenient, getting a passport or having your life destroyed by illegal immigration. Hundreds of thousands of Americans get murdered, rapped, robbed, beaten, have their identity stolen each year by illegal aliens. A passport requirement would have prevented some of this happening.

We have huge trade with the Canucks up in Detroit and passports would just be another piece of paper.....

This won't stop trade in any way shape or form.

86 posted on 04/15/2005 7:29:31 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: ClintonBeGone
He's certainly one of the few demagogue's. Of course he's got his own 'basement' issues.

You mean like security for the country?

87 posted on 04/15/2005 7:29:51 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Coop
"When I first read that in the newspaper about the need to have passports, particularly today's crossings that take place, about a million for instance in the state of Texas, I said, `What's going on here?"' Bush said when asked about the rules at a meeting of the American Society of Newspaper Editors (search).

"I thought there was a better way to expedite the legal flow of traffic and people," he said.

"If people have to have a passport, it's going to disrupt the honest flow of traffic. I think there's some flexibility in the law, and that's what we're checking out right now," the president said.

As I said before in summary, his goal is to expedite the flow of traffic across the border.

88 posted on 04/15/2005 7:29:54 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: MACVSOG68
Because the person wrote "I am stunned by this comment. Whats it going to take to get some border security here? This is insane! Now we should not ask for passports because it might inconvienience (sic) people and take some time? This is nuts"

As their own comment afterward. To post just that sentence from Fox and then state how Fox has skewed the President words, fine.

But that was not what they did and that was not their intention.
89 posted on 04/15/2005 7:30:20 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Personal Responsibility

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1384281/posts?page=89#89


90 posted on 04/15/2005 7:30:57 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RockyMtnMan
His logic is completely flawed because if he were interested in "streamlining" access then they would only accept one document from all nationalities, a passport. New passports have electronic bar codes on them an can be "swiped" within seconds and ALL nations have agreed to the standard.

Bingo.

91 posted on 04/15/2005 7:31:24 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: upchuck

I was thinking of taking out specific words from the article nad making my own sentence. Be right back....


92 posted on 04/15/2005 7:31:57 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Strategerist
the decision was made at a department level and the WH wasn't notified

A major policy shift is made in the Executive Branch, at the Department level, and the Chief Executive is not informed? Give me a break! GW knew -- and approved. This level of policy change doesn't happen without the Chief Executive's okay. GW is just trying to distance himself from the decision, now.
93 posted on 04/15/2005 7:32:27 AM PDT by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: trisham

the Majority of america are moderate thinkers. The danger for both parties are ultra-conservative or ultra-liberal voters hijacking the party. We as GOP voters have to realize that. We should not make the same mistake as the DNC did.


94 posted on 04/15/2005 7:33:55 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: sheana
Asking Americans for a passport to reenter their country is tantamount to....."papers please".

So do you recommend Americans get a barcode or something to identify us as American?? Color me confused...


95 posted on 04/15/2005 7:34:05 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: RockyMtnMan

No decision has been made, and they're also not starting from scratch. Your argument would carry much more weight with me were this just beginning. Then I'd say, sure, one standardized document sounds best. But all these other systems have been in place for years. Removing/replacing them willy nilly will likely do more to impede border traffic than we can imagine.


96 posted on 04/15/2005 7:35:53 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Personal Responsibility

BOYCOTT MEXICO IN EVERY WAY SHAPE AND FORM PERIOD


97 posted on 04/15/2005 7:35:59 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: MACVSOG68
You mean like security for the country?

More like surround sound and big screen TV.

98 posted on 04/15/2005 7:36:20 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
But that was not what they did and that was not their intention.

I don't know what his intention was, as you may have some other knowledge of the poster. But there are a lot of people here on FR and in the country at large who are rapidly losing confidence in the President when it comes to border security. It's not Bush bashing to take him to task when he is obviously not doing what he could or should to protect our borders. He absolutely needs to put resources into the protection of our borders both entry point and border areas. He needs to stop rewarding illegal aliens, and he needs to stop pandering to President Fox and overlooking his efforts to enable drug smugglers and illegal aliens.

99 posted on 04/15/2005 7:38:56 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Personal Responsibility

On Fox News last week, Asa Hutchinson stated that Homeland Security wanted U.S. citizens to have passports to get back into the country, even if they are just taking a day trip to Canada or the like. I think this is what they are talking about. I don't want to have to get a passport to go to Niagara Falls for the day to get back into the U.S.


100 posted on 04/15/2005 7:40:09 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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