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Student's Arrest at G.O.P. Convention Puts His Life in Limbo (Waaaaaaaah)
New York Times ^ | April 15, 2005 | SABRINA TAVERNISE

Posted on 04/14/2005 11:00:40 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Learn some history,will ya?

Back atcha! ;o)

141 posted on 04/15/2005 7:05:43 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: bannedfromdu

Nor the pictures that prove his innocence, or the authorities now backing his story.

I would not be defending this guy if all I had was his word.

But, we have pretty strong evidence, including the authorities themselves backing down, that he was innocent.


142 posted on 04/15/2005 9:31:57 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Mulder

The others are saying he went to a violent protest so it shouldn't matter whether he was violent or not himself.

What nonsense. I don't care if he was in the middle of a riot. If he was peaceably protesting, he deserves compensation for being falsely imprisoned.


143 posted on 04/15/2005 9:33:31 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: kcvl
Indymedia sends out a press release and SABRINA TAVERNISE of The New York Times writes an article on it.

Why...I'm shocked! Shocked I say!

But I'm sure the NYT has turned any number of FR threads into "news" articles...right?
144 posted on 04/15/2005 11:36:03 AM PDT by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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To: Mulder

Welcome to Amerika.
The only thing more disgusting that what happened to this American is the fact that many so-called "conservatives" will applaud his abuse by "the system"
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Good call. I agree. Pretend it was a Conservative going to protest a Dem convention. The double standards on here can sometimes be pretty amazing.


145 posted on 04/15/2005 3:21:29 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: devolve

Welcome to New York. If you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.


146 posted on 04/15/2005 4:10:35 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Mulder
Dont know about that? What happened to this kid is a shame, but abuse? he got involved in a mass protest in which many people did things that warrented. A cop made a mistake, they are after all human... On top of this his bail was reduced to 10K (which btw the mother would get back most of this after the trial) so that the mother could bail him out.

If some kid was busted in the LA riots who was just there screaming and shouting (but the officer thought he saw him throw a brick) is that abuse or life??

147 posted on 04/15/2005 5:16:43 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Mulder
That's the most un-American thing I've heard in awhile.

The OP should have said violent protest...

148 posted on 04/15/2005 5:18:49 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Mulder
The only thing more disgusting that what happened to this American is the fact that many so-called "conservatives" will applaud his abuse by "the system"

You got that right. Doctored evidence, false arrests, cops perjuring themselves, 90+% of the cases dropped. And freepers say no problem cuz them Dems wuz asking for it. FReeping idiots.

149 posted on 04/15/2005 8:43:26 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: RWR8189
in the chaos of the crowd

I don't feel sorry for this jerk. I don't believe he travels cross country to participate in a peaceful and orderly demonstration. He came looking for trouble and he found it. That's life. If his mother wants to foot the bill for her son's stupidity, that's her choice.

150 posted on 04/15/2005 8:56:26 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Sandy

Why do you repeat a lie? It is not true that 90% of the cases were just dropped. The majority of the cases were pled. That implies the exact opposite of what you are trying to argue.

Resorting to these tactics leads me to believe that your argument is weak.


151 posted on 04/15/2005 10:02:19 PM PDT by DameAutour
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To: DameAutour
It is not true that 90% of the cases were just dropped....Resorting to these tactics leads me to believe that your argument is weak.

Spare me. The difference between charge dropped and and adjudication withheld is trivial at best. The fact remains that the cops blew their credibility throughout this entire ordeal. Oh, and freepers think it's just fine and dandy for cops to lie and cheat as long as it's a leftist who's being screwed--that's a fact, not an argument. Didn't you read the thread? Here, some snippets: Great story! Glad he is enjoying his trip to NYC!.... Karma.... I feel no sympathy at all for him or his family.... I think he got what he deserves.... He got what he deserved. Came to New York to cause trouble and got more then he bargained for.... anyone willing to disrupt the rest of our lives to try and prove their political point deserves to be arrested....

152 posted on 04/15/2005 11:23:09 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: desidude_in_us
Afterall, if people want to protest peacefully, its a sign of a healthy democracy..

I completely agree with this statement. I will always stand up for the people's right to assemble peaceably. "Protestors" lately have gotten ridiculously out of control.

153 posted on 04/15/2005 11:30:11 PM PDT by WBurgVACon (Proud member Tau Kappa Epsilon - along with Ronald Reagan)
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To: wtc911
Police only have the power to arrest, not charge.

Did you pay attention at all during the Kobe Bryant case? The Sheriff filed charges behind the DA's back. If you think that police cannot file charges independently of the DA, you are living in a dreamland. Call my statement ridiculous all you want, but, facts are facts.

154 posted on 04/15/2005 11:32:55 PM PDT by WBurgVACon (Proud member Tau Kappa Epsilon - along with Ronald Reagan)
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To: Joe Driscoll

Where do you see anywhere in this article that there is exculpatory evidence? The article merely stated there is video, at one point, of this jackass acting civil. I really don't see how this matters. Just because at a certain point in time he was acting peaceably, does not mean he kept acting that way. This is politically motivated, hands down. Last I checked, New York is a predominantly Demoncrat state. If they can elect Hitlary Clinton to Senator....anything is possible.


155 posted on 04/15/2005 11:37:14 PM PDT by WBurgVACon (Proud member Tau Kappa Epsilon - along with Ronald Reagan)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45; Rennes Templar; Dog Gone; LibertarianInExile; tnlibertarian; Mr. Burns; ...

"This thread sure is SMOKING! hhehehehe."

Smoking? It's EN FUEGO! I've yet to see a thread on FR so heated. [rimshot]

FREEPER FREEPUN PING!


156 posted on 04/16/2005 12:18:08 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
I think it is the youth communists, youth socialist groups,radical homosexual groups and anarchists ..

I dont think there are any "youth socialists".. Socialism is just an euphemism for Communism ;)

157 posted on 04/16/2005 11:12:44 AM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: WBurgVACon
I will always stand up for the people's right to assemble peaceably. "Protestors" lately have gotten ridiculously out of control.

Well, I have never protested against anything, physically, either here or back home.. its more due to lack of interest in joining a particular political cause than anything else.. participation in online discussion forums is the only form of political expression I knw, and its more or less satisfactory for a guy like me, who doesnt feel too strongly about many topics (esp social issues).

Off topic, does anyone see any "great contribution" that we are making to society by chatting with strangers in online discussion groups like Freep ?

Most of the guys I see are merely killing time here, either picking up fights with strangers or reinforcing their already firm beliefs..

158 posted on 04/16/2005 11:24:18 AM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Tamzee

"News" story is right.
"Prescott College" in TUCSON does NOT EXIST.
And where might PRESCOTT COLLEGE BE? Prescott AZ
Too bad the bimbo who wrote this is clueless about doing research, but since when has the NYT cared about FACTS?
It would appear JAYSON BLAIR has a new name and job...


159 posted on 04/18/2005 10:53:10 AM PDT by SeptusTankus (Politicians spew it, we LIVE it. 450psi...PUKE TIME!)
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