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To: Elsie
"NOW you've done it!! The whole C vs A thing will explode before our very eyes!!! ;^)"

I doubt it. Most church pew warmers don't have the first clue about the fact that there are really only two religions in the whole world. LOL.

689 posted on 04/15/2005 8:41:30 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Matchett-PI; Elsie
Context, context, context!

Jhn 6:64-65
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

No one will believe unless they accept the testimony of the Holy Spirit!

Mar 3:28-29
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Jesus Christ's death on the cross covered the sins of ALL mankind. Rejection of this truth as revealed by the Holy Spirit means a person rejects the pardon provided by God!

From a prior post of mine (with relevant additions):

Part of understanding scripture is to compare scripture with scripture.

Your desire to trump a persons ability to choose is patently unbiblical. A person can have a choice and God can know what that choice will be before they make it, for God inhabits eternity.

Consider this passage:

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Two things to consider and remain scripturally faithful:

1. God inhabits eternity; therefore He knows who will choose His Son for Salvation.(Therefore the Father inhabiting eternity knows who will not reject the testimony of the Holy Spirit regarding Christ)
2. A person who does not choose to believe is condemned.

Moses was instructed to raise a brass serpent on a pole for the Israelis to look to if they were bitten by the snakes. God provided the provision for the Israelis Salvation. If God hadn't instructed Moses to lift the Brass Serpent, those bitten would have all died. Therefore God's provision of the Brass Serpent was Salvation to those bitten. If an Israelis was bitten, but refused to look too the Brass Serpent for Salvation they died. If an Israelis was bitten but chose to trust Gods provision and looked too the Brass Serpent they were healed. God provided the remedy, the persons only action was to try out Gods remedy by looking. They had a choice!

God, inhabiting eternity, knew which Israelis would look to His provision and be healed before He created the universe. But that does not mean He pre-scripted their decision before they made it. And it does not mean we get any credit for our own salvation.

Notice how the Holy Spirit explains both perspectives in this passage.

Jhn 1:12
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

The Gospel is a message of persuasion! We are not automatons. We have a personal relationship with God!

935 posted on 04/16/2005 11:49:38 AM PDT by bondserv (Alignment is critical! †)
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