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To: Lion in Winter; rdb3; Calpernia; DaveTesla; jb6
>>>>>>>>>>>Soros must have known about all the gold stolen and precious items from Hungarian Jews. He must have known where some of it was hidden. You know most of those treasures were NEVER found... supposedly. I would bet you a dollar to a donut, he got his mits on some of it. Thus, his start-up cash and walking around money while in London.<<<<<<<<<

Have you heard of HUNGARIAN GOLD TRAIN MYSTERY?

Until now, it never crossed my mind to link Soros to that mystery.

Speculation: Because he was present when some of it was snatched from the Jewish owners, Soros could be able to recognize the loot once it reached U.S. shores after WWII. Perhaps his seed money was in fact a hush money. Perhaps he followed the golden pot and found a rainbow.

There is also another WWII gold mystery that can be used as an excercise in lateral thinking.

In April 1941 Yugoslav government fled from invading Nazis and Italian fascists in several airplanes from Niksic, Montenegro to London and Cairo. They were not able to carry the bulk of gold from National Bank vaults.

In total, there were close to 20,000 lbs of gold (166 crates of bullion, 38 crates of gold bars). Governemt took only 19 crates with them. The rest was hidden in Montenegro mountains.

Italians captured one part of the stash, the rest dissapeared for good. However, after the WWII, one of the Italian soldiers who was stationed in the area became all of a sudden filthy rich. His name was Lucio Gelli. From there, news reports read like a Ludlum novel.

Quote:

"Lucio Gelli was the Grandmaster of the P2 Masonic Lodge, which ultimately became known as Propaganda Due Masonic Lodge. Gelli was a close associate of Calvi’s, and just as was the case with Carboni, he had been gifted with almost $200 million in cash from Calvi’s bank. Without too much hesitation, Gelli was indicted in the Banco Ambrosiano matter as a money launderer for some of the most famous names in Italy. For his efforts, he was sentenced to 12 years in jail...Rather than go to jail, Gelli fled to the French Rivera resort of Cannes, where he was eventually nabbed by French police. He was put into a jail hospital, where he tried to kill himself with his glasses. When police went to Gelli’s home in Cannes, they found 630 pounds of gold bars valued at $1.7 million hidden in flowerpots. Gelli’s wife had an interesting explanation for the gold-filled pots, saying, "the gold being magnetically charged aids substantially in plant growth, and her husband was a first class botanist," she told the police.

As I said, this is only an excercise in lateral thinking. But it can give some of the Freepers a valuable hint to connect the dots.

139 posted on 04/13/2005 5:28:23 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA; nw_arizona_granny

NW_AZ, Freeper DTA knows more about that gold you were telling us about.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1381895/posts?page=139#139


141 posted on 04/13/2005 7:17:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DTA; Calpernia
It is thought that Hitler hid the gold he took in all corners of the world. Tracing it to Brazil is easy, as shiploads of it went there, as did so many nazi big shots, near the end of the war.

But few know of the amounts of gold thought to be hidden in the United States by the same Hitler groups.

The story is that his spies and hidden cells would be in place and have the funds to take over America, at the right
time.

It is also said that he had guns and explosives hidden all over America. I suspect that it is many of these caches that the Russians guarded and added to over the years.

I live in Mohave County, Arizona, at Kingman area.

this is less than 200 miles from Mexico. Before moving here, we were in Wellton, Arizona, 40 miles from the Mexico border.

At Wellton, they tell of a full German convoy, stuck in the sandhills, the germans came across the line to invade us and did not know how to negotiate the sand, at times the sand will blow off the convoy and they are found as they stopped.

Do I believe the above, Yes, I do, if you have ever seen the Yuma Sand Dunes, you do also.

This is important to know, in that it does place the Germans within 200 miles of me.

The "Old" prospectors were still active here, when I moved to the area.

Due to my interest in gold, silver, and precious stones for mining, and the history of the area, several of the old pros
shared their knowledge with me.... I was blessed, with their help.

All the old prospectors kept their eyes open for the German Gold that was said to be here in the many caves and 200 year old (and even older) mines of the Spanish and Indian miners. There is thought that there is Peralta gold here, we were a half way point and only 25 miles from the Colorado River. We are also one of the areas of the 7 Cities of Cibola, the golden cities of the Indians that the Spanish hunted for.

In sitting here attempting to think of the names of my friends, Gilbert, I can' think of his last name, he had been a miner (active till death in the 1980's) something like Whitsett, he was german, but born in a mining town in the west, about 1885.

George Musser, would have also been german, he was born about 15 miles from where I sit, at the mining town of Cerbat, Arizona.

George blessed me with his knowledge of the local area history. As I own property there, anyone want an old mine at Cerbat town site? Non-working of course.

I camped with George for 3 days at Cerbat, he showed me every inch of it and all of the graves for his family there.

He KNEW that the germans had gold here. I always assumed that his almost to the spot knowledge, came from the german relatives he had.

Yes, he was real and true. The rock miners cabins are known to be built by the germans, the walls still stand 150 years later, most of them built with stones that are not held by anything but rocks, no cement to glue them together.

Could Soros tap into the german gold, yes, very easy, if he had an in with the person in charge of the maps.

Soros was young at the end of the war, but his father was involved and all it would take is a knowledge of the map department that hid it.

We need to pay more attention to the germans and their attempts to invade us during WW2, many do not know of the submarines on both the east and west coast, or of the battle of the subs in the eastern area, so close to the coast that the Americans stood on the beach and watched for 3 days.

I don't recall the google that turned up the subs, try something like; submarines attack the United States.

I was looking for al qaeda terrorist subs, when I found the german sub attack. I have known of the subs on the west coast all these years, as I lived near San Diego for the entire time of WW2.

If german boats were bringing in gold, we would have been only about 200 miles from the Calif Coast, as in the WW2 era there were still what we called Model A roads, which meant that someone before you came, wanted to reach a point and when one saw the tracks leading in the right direction, one took that trail.

Of course, I remember finding the Indian trails and have followed (in a pickup) the El Diablo Wagon Road, near Yuma that went to the gold camps in California in the mid 1800's.

Might as well throw in this tidbit. During all the years that the price of gold was frozen at $19 and 35.00 an ounce by our government, the miners were selling all the gold they could find.

I was told, by a miner that there was no trouble owning or selling gold, as he dug it up and the Chinamen still came to the camps and bought it direct from the miner, this was in the 1966 era.

The "Chinamen" came to them on a regular route, and they came from Mexico and returned there.

Cal, you know that next to goats, my favorite is gold hunting, you led me into this tirade. (love you).
143 posted on 04/14/2005 4:35:15 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
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To: DTA; Alouette
I followed the link! EXCELLENT SITE by the way. I recommend it to all interested in Jewish and Iraeli imformation.

Alouette you probably know about it anyway... but just in case... please follow the link given to me by DTA. on the thread I am replying to. It is the HUNGARIAN GOLD TRAIN MYSTERY.

Now, we know by soros' own admission he worked for the Hungarian Nazis when they were assessing and doing inventory of the estates of transported Jews: rich, poor and ALL. We know the Hungarian nazis took posasession of the goods and warehoused it outside Budapaet.

When the Hungarian nazis were making their escape to Austria, just ahead of invading Soviet troops, with all their confiscated loot on the HUNGARIAN GOLD TRAIN... PERHAPS, young soros made his exit with them. Perhaps, the young soros and others stashed some loot for themselves in Austria. Then, somehow came back to get it later but more than likely, they SOLD it to get the cash they needed for a "NEW LIFE" in the West.

148 posted on 04/14/2005 5:53:02 AM PDT by Lion in Winter
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