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Mixed emotions for gay Catholics on pontiff’s legacy
southernvoice.com ^ | April 8, 2005 | EARTHA MELZER

Posted on 04/08/2005 7:20:08 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

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To: MWS

Well said. I don't want to belong to a popular church. I want to belong to a church that is not afraid of the teachings of Christ.


21 posted on 04/08/2005 7:50:01 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Nothing could have diminished my proud appreciation of this mornings beautiful funeral.

But the sight of the despicable Bernard Law sitting there in full regalia came close.

22 posted on 04/08/2005 7:51:33 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: pissant
Hey, the Episcopal church is calling you. Join already!

Already belong smart ass. Born, raised and married there. Now what?

23 posted on 04/08/2005 7:51:35 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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To: MWS

Exactly. The truth does not change because so many people find it is easier to turn a blind eye towards it. Catholicism is not an a-la-carte menu.


24 posted on 04/08/2005 7:51:47 AM PDT by loborojo (What the hell is a "Reagan Democrat"?)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

It was adressed to the complaining gays, not you!

Sorry to send 'em your way


25 posted on 04/08/2005 7:54:16 AM PDT by pissant
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To: conservative cat

I have often been of the idea that when the Church waters down her teaching to become relevant to the world, she will find up finding herself irrelevant in the lives of her people.


26 posted on 04/08/2005 7:54:30 AM PDT by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: pissant
Sorry to send 'em your way

As a disenfranchised Episcopalian, watching my parish, (St. Johns Lafayette Square) where our beloved president worships, having been married there 20 years ago, elect a homosexual choir leader and recognizing his "partner" during 11:00 mass, sitting next to my son who was going though confirmation, made me want to throw up in my pew.

(Spits on ground in anger)

27 posted on 04/08/2005 8:03:44 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Come join the Roman Catholic Church. You are welcome here. Lotsa conservatives have been joining lately. Laura Ingraham & Larry Kudlow are two good examples.

Of course, there is always some value in staying put, and fighting the good fight.


28 posted on 04/08/2005 8:07:29 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
I've thought about it many times. Just can't get my wife and son to go along...hard to leave the rituals I suppose.

Not sure I can stop saying "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." at the end of the Lord's prayer...hehehe.

29 posted on 04/08/2005 8:14:49 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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To: cripplecreek

I'd like to clarify the comment that the site Hillarynow.com was going to print an article against the pope. The speaker was William Donohue of the Catholic League, and he did not exactly ascribe that to this website. He mentioned that there are many websites out there "like Hillary.com" (I felt he was merely reciting a random name of a website as he then paused and said it was not that specific website that was doing it). He mentioned that these sites were gearing up to smear the memory of JPII.


30 posted on 04/08/2005 8:19:48 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Don't expect it to be any better in the modern Catholic church. You won't even have to re-learn the Our Father, just pause a bit before the tacked-on protestant ending. Your Episcopalian rite, despite the sodomite choirmistress, is probably more "Catholic" than what you'll find at most "Catholic" parishes nowadays. At your local Catholic parish, you'll likely still get to enjoy going to mass with various and sundry perverts and pro-aborts, maybe even in the sacristy. If you're lucky, your bishop won't openly hold "rainbow sash" masses and liturgical dance sessions, but don;t count on it.

If you can find a Latin Mass in your area, you'll avoid most of the craziness. If not, you'd be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Good luck and God bless.


31 posted on 04/08/2005 8:34:53 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: traderrob6

My Grandmother just turned 94 last month. We were talking about this very subject, and she said "You know, trying to be a homo in the Catholic church is like trying to be a vegetarian working in a butcher shop. If that's what you believe, what the Hell are you doing there, anyway?"


32 posted on 04/08/2005 8:37:44 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

LOL....your grandmother gets it


33 posted on 04/08/2005 8:38:57 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: MWS

Just out curiosity what do you against female priests other than it not being tradition.

BTW non-practicing catholic moved very much by recent events and will actually be going to Mass today


34 posted on 04/08/2005 8:42:01 AM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: sgtbono2002

" 'I firmly resolve with the help of Thy Grace to confess my sins, to do Penance and to amend my life Amen.' These closing words of a Catholic confession are telling to Homosexuals as they have no intention to amend their lives."

The gospel calls for us to die to our own lives. This was mentioned in today's homily at JPII's funeral. By giving up our lives, God gives them back to us in the form he desires -- all our talents at best use for His purposes. The entire ideology of "gay identity" flies in the face of this fundamental teaching. They are unwilling to "lay down their life for their friends" -- except the gay friends. Not for the Bible-believing Christian friends around the world, especially those in countries experiencing persecution against Christians. How much better it would do their souls to spend time in prayer for all Christians instead of in dance clubs!


35 posted on 04/08/2005 8:42:27 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We're not starving her to death -- we're just removing nutrition and hydration." -- Michael Schiavo)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Helminiak, who is gay, is now a psychology professor at the State University of West Georgia. He left the priesthood after 28 years in part because of the church’s teachings on sexuality.

Yes, because he personally didn't want to follow them. More admirable than the priests who remained and satisfied their desires by molesting adolescent parishioners, but not the only possibility. Sadly, though, the writer cannot even imagine another alternative.

36 posted on 04/08/2005 8:43:42 AM PDT by madprof98
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I never have been able to see how a gay person can reconcile their lifestyle with the Catholic religion.

The only honest way for a homosexual to be a good Catholic is to: 1) not practice homosexual acts, and 2) accept homosexual acts as sinful in nature.

It is not possible for a active homosexual who does not believe homosexual acts are sin to be Catholic in any meaningful sense. Those that say they do lie to themselves and to the rest of the Church.

I actually don't think that active homosexuals who do not believe that homosexuality is sinful can be Christians, let alone Catholics; but that was not your post.

37 posted on 04/08/2005 8:52:40 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: pissant
Lotsa conservatives have been joining lately. Laura Ingraham & Larry Kudlow are two good examples.

Sam Brownback and Bob Novak are two more.

38 posted on 04/08/2005 8:54:19 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast

Bob Novack? that's suprising!


39 posted on 04/08/2005 8:56:34 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Dogrobber

I can't disagree with anything you say. Heres a related article on this subject and the rationalization.

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2005/04/rev-gene-robinsonjesus-might-be-gay.html


40 posted on 04/08/2005 8:58:19 AM PDT by traderrob6
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