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Wal-Mart Denounces Health Bill
washington post ^ | 4-7-05 | Michael Barbaro

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:45:29 AM PDT by TXBSAFH

Wal-Mart Denounces Health Bill Retailer Says Maryland Could Lose Future Jobs

By Michael Barbaro Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, April 7, 2005; Page E01

ROGERS, Ark., April 6 -- Wal-Mart Stores Inc. yesterday said approval of a bill that would require it to boost health care spending in Maryland could endanger its plans for growth in the state, including a new distribution center that would employ as many as 1,000.

The company questioned the motivation behind the bill, which is backed by a top competitor and its labor union.

Wal-Mart "will have to rethink its future growth in a state that is willing to pass such a bad business bill," said Nate Hurst, a government relations manager for the company. "This type of legislation, where lawmakers single out one employer, does not create a favorable environment."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: chinamart; extortion; freedomofcontract; govwatch; healthcare; socializedmedicine; walmart
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To: Smartaleck

WalMart, like Microsoft, has become a popular whipping boy.

They are giving the customer what they want. If they are doing something illegal as an employer -- then the gov't should fine them or arrest them.

But the idea of laws designed to punish them for their success are just wrong.

Otherwise.... let the market prevail. I'm a happy stockholder and frequent customer of Wal-mart and Sam's.

-- Joe


181 posted on 04/07/2005 2:05:13 PM PDT by Joe Republc
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To: A. Pole
socialist = communist lite. No real difference from this angle
182 posted on 04/07/2005 2:11:25 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: A. Pole
Huge standing army involved in the most of the world is not what is compatible with a free republic as the ancient Romans learned.

but it is compatible with our constitution and that's the only thing that really matters. If we did not have our strong defense the third world weasels would already be at our gates trying to destroy us.

183 posted on 04/07/2005 2:12:43 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: A. Pole
The market is your god. But it is a false god - an idol.

No. Jesus Christ is my God and He is a real God. The market is just the only real way to find the value of a commodity

184 posted on 04/07/2005 2:13:51 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: excalibur1701
It's real simple for you to say, yet, if they decide to build in your back yard, then I'm sure it would be a simple story.

My back yard is about 1/8 acre. I don't think they'd have the room. Now if they decided to buy the land behind me and build there I'd just have to put up with it or move. As long as they are obeying the laws how can I complain about them using their own property

How would you like to be woken up every morning with the sounds of "beeping" as the Wal-mart trucks backup into their loading dock.

I live about three blocks away from a foundry and a scrapyard. I also live two houses away from the railroad tracks. You get used to the noise after a short while and never hear it. It's no big deal

I have a right to keep my property value up, and not have it plummet if they would have succeeded in building.

You have a right to keep your property value up. You do not have a right to deny someone else the right to use their property in accordance with the laws in place when they bought that property.

If you didn't want neighbors you should have bought that neighboring property before they did.

185 posted on 04/07/2005 2:18:50 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: A. Pole; All

"used to be against the national health care system. But seeing the HUGE cost and mess associated with the medical care, crippling disadvantage it imposes on American businesses and MEAGER results when compared with the other developed countries I came to the conclusion that well designed (using the most successful in LONG TERM designs abroad as examples) is better and INEVITABLE. "

It shall be called "Judge Greer care"!


186 posted on 04/07/2005 2:24:03 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: excalibur1701
I have a right to keep my property value up, and not have it plummet if they would have succeeded in building.

Simple answer: No, you don't.

187 posted on 04/07/2005 2:36:03 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
This is just off the top of my head, but I'd say something like $10.00.

A minimun wage of $10/hour allows indviduals to live, based on your opinon, in an acceptable manner?

Have I got this right?

188 posted on 04/07/2005 2:52:19 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
"A minimun wage of $10/hour allows indviduals to live, based on your opinon, in an acceptable manner?"

That's not what I said. I said I think a $10 minimum wage wouldn't lose jobs or hurt business. However, the difference between a $7 job and a $10 job would make it possible for a single person to scrape by even in the expensive Seattle area where I live. So to get back to your question, no, a $10 job is not sufficient to live even a lower-middle-class lifestyle in today's economy; but it is (barely) enough to keep you off the streets. And I think that is a minimal requirement for "the greatest country on God's green earth," as Michael Medved says.
189 posted on 04/07/2005 3:08:11 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: John O
"Now if they decided to buy the land behind me and build there I'd just have to put up with it or move. As long as they are obeying the laws how can I complain about them using their own property."

There's such a thing as zoning laws, but I suppose you think anyone who believes in zoning laws is a communist. It sounds like the place where you live DOESN'T have zoning laws, or at least ones that are very well thought out. But if you buy a house in a residential zone, it is your right as a citizen to try to make sure that those laws aren't changed either to the detriment of your property values or to the residential character of your neighborhood.
190 posted on 04/07/2005 3:32:22 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
[to John O:]
There's such a thing as zoning laws, but I suppose you think anyone who believes in zoning laws is a communist. It sounds like the place where you live DOESN'T have zoning laws, or at least ones that are very well thought out.

Something like that?

191 posted on 04/07/2005 3:37:49 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: jy8z
I chose to become "promotable".

LOL!

You mean you actually worked yourself into a better position?

How shocking!

192 posted on 04/07/2005 3:47:49 PM PDT by MamaTexan (A bureaucracy's number one goal is to ensure the survival of that bureaucracy at the expense of all)
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To: free_european
Most nurses on general med/surg wards in California are already Philipino. They seemed hard working and friendly to me when I visited my friend in hospital a few months ago.

One of my primary care physicians is Thai.  She, like the California Filipina nurses you know, is hard working, friendly, and best of all, extremely competent.

Come to remember, growing up on a moderately small island in the East China Sea, our family doctor was a Filipino.  And, even more interesting, a friend who is married to a Foreign Service worker stationed in Shanghai takes her treatment in Bangkok with a Thai oncologist.

So, my joke about importing foreign health workers was a slam at Wal Mart's obsessive/compulsive, oligopolistic and Scrougelike  misbehavior toward their workforce and the communities in which they live.

We have a Wal Wart just down the road which is being replaced by a Super Store.  If I can buy a product anywhere else, even at a higher price, I avoid Wal Mart like the plague.   It is weird to read the noise from many of the folks in these Wal-Mart threads who champion this bullying oligopoly as an example of free enterprise.  I do my part by shopping elsewhere.

193 posted on 04/07/2005 4:33:03 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
I generally support free market concepts, but not laissez faire. Some regulations on business are silly, counterproductive, and inefficient. But not all of them are. {. . .] If I'm a left-winger, then some of the people in here are anarchists. If some people here had their way, we'd all still be working 80 hour weeks for $1.00 an hour, living in rat-infested, fire-trap tenements, and owing our soul to the company store.

Precisely so.  Even Adam Smith recognized the natural tendency of people to collude and conspire against their competitors to maximize profits.  Labor, for these folks, is a cost like any other which is relatively easy to control, if they dominate the marketplace, including the physical real world places where they do business.

In these threads, it is rather easy to pick out those who believe a free market economy really does mean a laissez faire economy.  :-)

194 posted on 04/07/2005 5:06:50 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: green iguana
They were talking about plans for a 1000 employee distribution center. That could easily be placed in a neighboring state.

If I were WalMart, I would move this Eastern Shore distribution center 5 miles east into Delaware.

195 posted on 04/07/2005 5:10:11 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: XRdsRev

Like you, I can only judge Wal-Mart by my experiences with them...which when taken as a whole have been pretty good.

Shortly after we bought this place my husband started getting really fed up with the small places selling lawn tractors - they were either used and over priced or new and REALLY over priced.

We happened to be in Wal-Mart and hubby decided to take a look at the tractors there. The gentleman in the garden center was not only pleasant, but extremely knowlegeable about the products. We left there not only purchasing all the other household needs, but a lawn tractor (American made).....but we had a problem - we had no way of getting that tractor home, and Wal-Mart doesn't deliver. The gentleman from the garden center happened to live in the next town over from us and offered to bring it to us when he got off work in about an hour.

When he showed up with the tractor, he refused to take any money from us. When I argued with him that he was doing it as a favor and on his own time he said, yes it was a favor but his manager felt it was a great thing to do and kept him on the clock and he was going to be paid until he got home.

To me, that was great customer service, public relations and employee relations.


196 posted on 04/07/2005 5:20:38 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: XRdsRev

OOPS.........I forgot to add - I live in Virginia, but the Wal-Mart I shop in happens to be in Maryland.


197 posted on 04/07/2005 5:21:49 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I'm not looking to argue. I'm simply hoping to understand.

Per you opinion (well thought out, I might add) is that a $10/hour minimum wage is where we should be from both a moral and business point of view.

Have I got this right?


198 posted on 04/07/2005 5:28:42 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Joe Republc

"WalMart, like Microsoft, has become a popular whipping boy."

While both are biggies, at least Wally will pony up a refund if the product is shoddy. MS on the other hand will blame you if it doesn't work. LOL

That said, the state of modern computing would be no where close to where it is today without MS. :-)


199 posted on 04/07/2005 6:32:09 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Capriole
"That's us, boys and girls! Our Maryland taxes are going to finance the health care Walmart refuses to provide."

Anyone who has a lifetime goal to work in a retail job needs to be in a MENTAL INSTITUTION in Maryland not simply "health care".

200 posted on 04/07/2005 6:50:54 PM PDT by BobS
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