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To: Jim Robinson
Begging your indulgence, but you, of all people, should know better than to rely on something that "somebody sent you."

Your Madison quote is bogus. It appears in one place - the writing of the man who claims Madison says it - and one place only. All references to the quote come from that one source. He has no idea where he got it. He has no notes on where he got it. It does not exist in Madison's hand or in any contemporaneous record of him either saying it or writing it.

I bring this up because it is quite appropo of the current "troubles" - which I believe were stoked largely by a disregard of any prudent skepticism of what you read on the internet.

You know, something like "Terri Schiavo didn't have the benefit of a trial."

17 posted on 04/05/2005 2:29:17 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Jim Robinson

I'm afraid you'll have to point to where in the court proceedings Judge Greer approved of your use of the self-appellation "extremist." Otherwise, it CANNOT be true.


20 posted on 04/05/2005 2:31:04 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: lugsoul

I must've missed the trial. Where was the jury of her peers?


22 posted on 04/05/2005 2:32:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: lugsoul
You know, something like "Terri Schiavo didn't have the benefit of a trial."

When was her trial and what was she found guilty of?

35 posted on 04/05/2005 2:38:08 PM PDT by Misty Memory (Making a mental note.)
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To: lugsoul

Apropos; if you're going to criticize, at least use the spell checker.


37 posted on 04/05/2005 2:38:50 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: lugsoul

>["appropo"}
The word is spelled: "apropos".


99 posted on 04/05/2005 3:01:05 PM PDT by FBD ( “The measure of a society is how it treats the least of us.)
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To: lugsoul
Your Madison quote is bogus. It appears in one place - the writing of the man who claims Madison says it - and one place only. All references to the quote come from that one source. He has no idea where he got it. He has no notes on where he got it. It does not exist in Madison's hand or in any contemporaneous record of him either saying it or writing it.

Not only that, but the sentiments it expresses are directly opposite to others Madison most certainly expressed. For example.

The experience of the United States is a happy disproof of the error so long rooted in the unenlightened minds of well-meaning Christians, as well as in the corrupt hearts of persecuting usurpers, that without a legal incorporation of religious and civil polity, neither could be supported.

209 posted on 04/05/2005 3:40:07 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: lugsoul

So, we should put you in the category of those who believe Terri HAD a true and fair trial?

Not that I really want to get off on this dead horse topic--to use a bad metaphor.


254 posted on 04/05/2005 3:58:35 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: lugsoul

Wow! It only took 17 posts for one of the members of the WPPFF to chime in! Lovely./sarcasm


330 posted on 04/05/2005 7:10:10 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Would you rather be O.J.'s girlfriend or Michael Schiavo's fiancee? - Ann Coulter)
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To: lugsoul
You know, something like "Terri Schiavo didn't have the benefit of a trial."

Uhmmm....haven't read the rest of this great thread yet to see how anyone responded to your comment.

But you do know that she never did have the benefit of a trial, right? Not in any Fifth Amendment sense at all. She was never even charged with a crime, nor did she ever have her own attorney.

But she was executed by the state in one of the most horrific ways imaginable anyway, in direct violation of the clear principles of the Fifth Amendment and Article One, Section Two of the Florida constitution.

417 posted on 04/06/2005 12:08:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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