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AP poll: Next pope should pursue change
AP ^ | 4/4/5 | WILL LESTER

Posted on 04/04/2005 8:00:34 AM PDT by SmithL

WASHINGTON - Most Americans want the next pope to work for changes in Roman Catholic Church policies to allow priests to marry and women to join the priesthood. And they want more done to combat sexual abuse by priests, an AP-Ipsos poll found.

A solid majority of Americans, and Catholics in the country, are calling for the changes even while saying they widely admire Pope John Paul II, who supported traditional policies against priest marriage and against allowing women into the priesthood.

"He crossed so many boundaries, opened doors to many governments," said Joseph Riess, a Catholic businessman from Vienna, Va. "But I think it's time for changes."

Just over half of Americans, 51 percent, and almost three-fourths of Catholics say John Paul, who died Saturday, will be remembered as one of the greatest popes, according to the poll conducted for The Associated Press by Ipsos-Public Affairs.

The U.S. Catholic church is struggling with a variety of problems, including a dramatically shrinking U.S. priesthood, disagreement over the proper role for lay leaders, and a conservative-liberal divide over sexuality, women's ordination and clergy celibacy.

About two-thirds of those polled said priests should be allowed to marry and almost that many said they want women in the priesthood. A majority of Catholics supported both steps.

More than four in five Americans - and about the same number of Catholics - said they want to see the next pope do more to address the problem of priests sexually abusing children.

The church has been trying to deal with an abuse crisis that bubbled to the surface in January 2002 in the Archdiocese of Boston, then spread throughout the country. Since then, the church has adopted a toughened discipline policy, enacted child protection and victim outreach plans in dioceses, and removed hundreds of accused priests from church work.

Americans were divided when asked from where the next pope should come. Just over a third said he should be from Europe, while a similar number said he should be from a part of the world where Catholicism is growing fastest, like Africa or Latin America. The rest weren't sure.

"I don't think it matters where they're from," said Heather Schramko, a clinical researcher and a Catholic from Perrysburg, Ohio. "But they need to modernize the church."

The AP-Ipsos poll of 1,001 adults was taken Friday to Sunday and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Some of the interviews were conducted before news broke Saturday about the pope's death, but most people knew he was gravely ill.


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To: SmithL

Polls are stupid.


101 posted on 04/04/2005 8:39:34 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Aquinasfan

As Cardinal Ratzinger says, Truth is not determined by a majority vote!

"What is truth?" --AP
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I believe that! AP, and the rest of them, co-workers with Pilate....


102 posted on 04/04/2005 8:39:38 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: xsmommy

I need to head out .. but

The are moving the Pope

If anyone wants to see .. here is a link

http://www.ewtn.com/tv/index.asp


103 posted on 04/04/2005 8:39:51 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: SmithL

POLL BY JESUS CHRIST

Do you support the crucifixion of Jesus Christ?

Yes 27%

No 56 %


Poll is followed.... Sorry no redemption....


104 posted on 04/04/2005 8:39:51 AM PDT by Fred
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To: longtermmemmory
ED Hill is exposed more and more as a leftist who is not morning worthy. If I want a ditzy leftist blond I will watch katie couric. IOW no morning TV. They need to replace ED Hill. I find myself watching (shudder) C-Span.

Yeah...she isn't looking too good either.....she definatley not the foxiest on FOX.

105 posted on 04/04/2005 8:41:01 AM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: Mo1

I think the left and the MSM are horrified at the prospect that in death the Pope may bring more people back to the church.

Compare the catholic church which was scandalized by homosexuals vs the episcopals which ENDORSED homosexuality.
Parisoners fled.

If the MSM and Left can set up an impossible standard by including irrelevant voters, then WHOEVER gets selected by be spun as having an "impossible" task because they are out of step with the "XXXX."

This is a push poll, the question is WHY are the mediots pushing for this result? What is the goal for the next story and the story after the new pope is selected.


106 posted on 04/04/2005 8:41:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: kellynla
The Orthodox are not Eastern-Rite Catholics. They are not Catholics at all.
107 posted on 04/04/2005 8:41:48 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: kellynla

And that won't change by whenever you have time to debate the issue..


108 posted on 04/04/2005 8:42:15 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: B Knotts
A person who supports the ordination of women, in the face of infallible teaching which shows it to be impossible, is not a Catholic.

I love acid tests. Any others?

109 posted on 04/04/2005 8:42:20 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I can't stomach C-SPAN in the morning, Imus has become a complete selfish bore, and ED Hill makes watching F&F sheer torture.


110 posted on 04/04/2005 8:42:33 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: tman73

Thanks!


111 posted on 04/04/2005 8:45:26 AM PDT by trisham
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To: AQGeiger
I agree that non Catholics opinons are irrelevant. But it seem that many on this thread think actual Catholics opinons are unimportant.

I'm not talking about running the church as a democracy, I'm simply pointing out that opinions should be known. (I wouldn't put any faith in a AP poll of them though)

112 posted on 04/04/2005 8:46:01 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: TonyRo76

LOL.

You are taking this as though it's an actual vote on what the RC is gonna do next. The results of the poll are not binding.

A little perspective folks, it's an opinion poll. They get run all the time. Hardly a day goes by where there is no "Freep this poll" thread around here. So apparently, freepers, just like the rest of America, want their opinions known.


113 posted on 04/04/2005 8:46:32 AM PDT by dmz
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To: SmithL

"He crossed so many boundaries, opened doors to many governments," said Joseph Riess, a Catholic businessman from Vienna, Va. "But I think it's time for changes."


Nothing says these people have to stay in the Catholic Church, they are free to go to a denomination that has Gay ministers, women ministers and support same sex marriage. No one is stopping them.


114 posted on 04/04/2005 8:46:40 AM PDT by Fred
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I doubt he wants the job, but it would be fun to see the conclave pick the "Panzerkardinal", just to see the liberals' brains explode.
115 posted on 04/04/2005 8:48:08 AM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Mo1

After thinking about this AP poll for a few moments, I suddenly realize the significance of the Conclave. If the Cardinals were persuaded by silly AP polls, the Catholic Church would be on a steep downhill slide.


116 posted on 04/04/2005 8:48:54 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Mr. K
Does anyone know why priests are not allowed o marry?

Matthew 19:10-12, 29

The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.” Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

...And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

1 Corinthians 7:8-11,32-36

Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

... I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs–how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world–how he can please his wife– and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world–how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.


117 posted on 04/04/2005 8:50:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: AntiGuv

Catholic is just the word "universal"

The Orthodox Church has the Niacian Creed which says "one holy catholic and apostolic church".

They are a catholic church.

There is no need to be "huffy". I am of course assuming you are discussing the orthodox churchs like the Greek Orthodox church. If I misread you then sorry, if I have read correctly then you should not bandy about such accusations which are not so.


118 posted on 04/04/2005 8:50:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Protagoras

I didn't read the opening....I can surmise that the
network is going to get their homoabortiongaycrap moving.. after they got the wimps in this country going for
their halfass agenda...This Pope John Paul ll- upheld
the teaching os the Church and thenext one will also..
just tell these nitwits..to get lost. Jake


119 posted on 04/04/2005 8:51:00 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: Heatseeker
I doubt he wants the job, but it would be fun to see the conclave pick the "Panzerkardinal", just to see the liberals' brains explode.

On-line betting has him fourth equal. I agree about him not wanting it - he's wanted to retire from the C.D.F. for a while now, but I don't know whether he would decline if elected by the Sacred College.

The liberals' brains will explode enough with Francis card. Arinze, and certainly those at the American 'Catholic' University where people walked out of a speach he was giving.
120 posted on 04/04/2005 8:51:55 AM PDT by tjwmason (For he himself has said, and it's greatly to his credit, he remains an Englishman.)
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