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AIDS Fighters Face a Resistant Form of Apathy
NY Times ^ | April 3, 2005 | ANDREW JACOBS

Posted on 04/03/2005 6:00:14 PM PDT by neverdem

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From low self esteem to gays in the military and gay marriage, this article seems to run the gamut.
1 posted on 04/03/2005 6:00:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


2 posted on 04/03/2005 6:01:45 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
"We have to decide whether we're going to be selfish or whether we're going to care about one another."

I think that's going to be a reaaaalllly tough decision. [/sarcasm]

Face it, fellas, it's a Culture of Death. You know the risks. And you don't care.

3 posted on 04/03/2005 6:03:55 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: neverdem

Abstinence? Was the word abstinence used in the article?


4 posted on 04/03/2005 6:04:52 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: neverdem

GRRRRRRRR typical NYT stinkin cowpie. If you don't by now know enough to protect yourself from risky behavior, you have alot bigger problems than conntracting AIDS


5 posted on 04/03/2005 6:05:19 PM PDT by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: Thebaddog
"Abstinence? Was the word 'abstinence' used in the article?"
Judging by how much they abstained from using it, it WAS used in writing the article.
6 posted on 04/03/2005 6:08:21 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

This really comments on itself. All the doozies - the best one is that "gays" take meth, try to get AIDS, bareback, have promiscuous anonymous "sex", become drug addicts, are mentally unstable and suicidal - all because nasty society, churches, and families reject them. Internalized homophobia.

Well, gang, what do you think of that?

If it's true, than those who faithfully believe in and try to serve God should all have the same or worse behaviors, since we're much more "marginalized" and hated than homosexuals. At least by the MSM and TPTB.

Let DirtyHarryY2K and me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


7 posted on 04/03/2005 6:11:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: neverdem
"If everyone in your group is beautiful, taking steroids, barebacking and H.I.V. positive, having the virus doesn't seem like such a bad thing."

Is your life really so worthless ???

8 posted on 04/03/2005 6:13:13 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Thebaddog
The word abstinence was indeed used in the article but ONLY in reference to how heterosexuals fail at abstinence. Here it is:

There is a growing sense that the traditional sloganeering about condoms and club drugs is about as effective as birth-control campaigns that rely on abstinence.

9 posted on 04/03/2005 6:15:15 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: Thebaddog
Abstinence? Was the word abstinence used in the article?

Yes, it's 14th paragraph/sentence.

"There is a growing sense that the traditional sloganeering about condoms and club drugs is about as effective as birth-control campaigns that rely on abstinence."

10 posted on 04/03/2005 6:15:44 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Anything but self-governance. Further, the public is to pay for the instruments of vice. Better to pay for the lash, the whip and the knout!


11 posted on 04/03/2005 6:18:03 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: neverdem
As for condoms, the frontline defense against sexually transmitted diseases,...

Well, that's the problem right there. Gays would rather have a backdoor defense to sexually transmitted diseases.

12 posted on 04/03/2005 6:18:07 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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To: neverdem

"Where have all the condoms gone?" Sounds like a 60s rock tune.

The author develops the sneaking suspicion that gay New Yorkers are . . . just . . . a . . . little . . . teensy . . . bit . . . crazy.

But how can that be? I thought the American Psychological Association voted they are just as normal as apple pie.


13 posted on 04/03/2005 6:21:08 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tall_Texan

I am starting not to care at all about gays, HIV, etc., except about their greatly deleterious effect on the rest of us.

Does that make me a homophobe?


14 posted on 04/03/2005 6:22:41 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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To: little jeremiah

So, if we continue to marginalize the homos, they will bugger themselves into non-existance?

And they want to be called "normal"?

Let the marginalization continue apace!


15 posted on 04/03/2005 6:22:56 PM PDT by Stopislamnow (Three co-equal branches? Not anymore. Sig heil mein black robed tyrant!)
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To: neverdem

All that Federal money those AIDS charities are getting is being used for circuit parties - can't buy condoms and print literature when one has to provide camp Queen B-listers with tina appetizers.


16 posted on 04/03/2005 6:24:35 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: neverdem

-prevention workers are planning a series of events that seek to promote "connectedness and community."-

Seems to me there's just too much connectedness going on. Male/female sex has an automatic control: the female. Male/male has none. The men might be gay, but they're still men. Predators. Sex is more urgent than safety.


17 posted on 04/03/2005 6:27:38 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Stopislamnow

Considering all the promotion that homosexuality is getting in public schools via "Gay/Straight" clubs, Days of Silence, "gay" counselors and so on, various corportaions' "diversity training" and sponsorship of the homosexual agenda, and ACLU pushing "gay" everything all the time, Hollyweird homo-promo, and more (just the tip of the iceberg), homosexuals are not only not marginalized, they're practically mandatory.

The only way homosexuality could get any more face time would be if it WAS mandatory.


18 posted on 04/03/2005 6:30:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: neverdem

"AIDS has had a long run at the top of the charts. But like all diseases, people lose interest in it. If they haven't gotten it by now, they figure they probably won't.

Besides, we got this Marburg virus now that makes your skin fall off in chunks and blood squirt out your ears. It's hard to get excited about something that might kill you in ten years with pneumonia, when something like that is on the loose. That one's riding a rocket to the #1 disease.

Our current #1 is the Bird Flu, which some scientists say will kill us all by a week from Wednesday. But after fans burned a few million chickens during its last appearance in North Korea, Bird Flu appears to be headed down as well.

Be sure to tune in next week. Will Marburg take the #1 spot? Will Ebola make a comeback? And just what has SARS been doing in the studio for the last year?


19 posted on 04/03/2005 6:31:23 PM PDT by Nick Danger (You can stick a fork in the Mullahs... they're done)
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To: AmericanChef
Male/female sex has an automatic control: the female.

That is hilarious.

Male/male has none. The men might be gay, but they're still men. Predators. Sex is more urgent than safety.

And this is very observant. Combine that with the fact that many gays truly want to contract HIV because they think the infection is what will connect them with the gay community, and all the money in the world could not educate this population into behaviors that avoid disease.

20 posted on 04/03/2005 6:31:38 PM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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