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To: Ann Archy

Mary was a sinner who was saved by grace in the same manner of any sinner who trusts Jesus Christ for salvation.

She was a godly woman, but not sinless, huge difference.

'And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.'

Luke 1:446-47

If she was sinless why does she need a savior. I am Catholic by the way, not a Mary worshiper or a believer in Mary to mediate between man and Christ.


33 posted on 04/03/2005 3:58:43 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: rollo tomasi

Luke 1:446-47= Luke 1:46-47.


34 posted on 04/03/2005 3:59:50 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: rollo tomasi
Sorry....Mary was sinless...hence Mary's Immaculate Conception, which means she had NO SIN (Original Sin) on her soul.

This is a BIG Doctrine in the Roman Catholic Church, so I am doubting that you are a ROMAN Catholic.

P.s. Catholics do not WORSHIP Mary.....only the Trinity is Worshipped.

39 posted on 04/03/2005 6:45:49 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: rollo tomasi
If she was sinless why does she need a savior.

My daughter has never drowned. She has never even fallen into a swimming pool. But that is because her mother and I were vigilant. We saved her from drowning by not letting her get intot a situation where drowning was an option.

Jesus's saving act saved Mary by keeping her Immaculate. She needed Him to do that, as my daughter, on occasion, needed me to keep her from falling into a pool. But I kept my daughter safe, and The Son of God kept the woman chosen to be His mother safe.

I am Catholic by the way,...

ROMAN Catholic?

... not a Mary worshiper or a believer in Mary to mediate between man and Christ.

Well what a coincidence! I'm not a Mary worshipper either, and I'm a Roman Catholic.

As to the mediation thing, that's more complicated: My mother-in-law is a great woman of prayer. I don't understand why that is so, but my experience is that it IS so. Consequently, when something really troubles me or concerns me deeply, I will ask her to pray about it.

Does that mean I "worship" my mother-in-law? Cut me a BREAK! But, in a way, it DOES mean that I expect even my mother-in-law to mediate between me and God. Not in the way that Jesus mediates, but there is still an intercessory aspect to what I ask of her. And so it is with the Mother of my Lord: I ask her to pray for me, and I also pray for myself, through Jesus Christ.

After all, I pray for the world, but I don't think I'm some kind of cosmic mediator....

42 posted on 04/03/2005 7:45:52 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (My P226 wants to teach you what SIGnify means ...)
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