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"Theocrats" for Terri Schiavo
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | April 1, 2005 | Lawrence Auster

Posted on 04/01/2005 4:59:24 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Steel Wolf; Poohbah
Do you think it is reasonable to call large groups of people such hateful, moronic names as Poohbah has called posters here-and then whine about the emotional postings?

Is it reasonable to threaten a public temper tantrum because people disagree with you? I say that is no voice of reason.

41 posted on 04/01/2005 2:57:57 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: WL-law
To embrace legal positivism is to, in effect, close the door on further debate as to whether, on natural law principles, abortion should be regulated or banned. The liberal legal positivist understands that the Supreme Court has become a one-way ratchet to enshrine leftist principles in American life that, under a majoritarian process, would never see the light of day.

Very good. Except I am not so sure about majoritarian process. The judges are produced by politicians who are elected by majoritarian processes, and the blind judge was elected and reelected directly.

It is indeed the conflict between man-made law and Divine Law, but a majoritarian process produces man-made law also. The Left embraces man-made law because it is fundamentally a statist idea.

42 posted on 04/01/2005 2:58:54 PM PST by annalex
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To: Poohbah
>> And I have to believe that she said not a f***ing thing about it until over ten years later.

Think. Sometimes it takes time, as information develops, to put two and two together. For years, people believed a different lie by Michael, that Terri "collapsed" out of some exotic affliction which has never been explained or medically corroborated, and which is statistically preposterous. Not until we get past that falsehood does the Schiavos' fight back in 1990 become important.

>> I'm supposed to believe this woman?

Why on earth not? It is a perfectly believable human story and and it dovetails with others' observations.

It also fits statistics. Domestic violence is the most common cause of death or severe injury to healthy young women.

>> How come the doctors didn't say a f***ing thing about this being caused by abuse?

That's an easy one. Michael concealed the bone scan, which would have provided a "perfect defense" for the doctors he sued. The bone scan report was not discovered until 2002, ten years after the fraudulent malpractice suit.

>> Sorry, there is no evidence of that, aside from a deposition solicited by the Schindlers' lawyer, and Gibbs has, IMNHO, engaged in enough chicanery...

Of course there's evidence -- his wife's broken and now dead body is rather poignant evidence. A deposition is also good evidence. And yes, Michael did tell that lie to the investigating police, it's on the record.

43 posted on 04/01/2005 3:00:23 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism reduces America from a Shining City on a Hill to a fetid slum in a fever swamp)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Do you think it is reasonable to call large groups of people such hateful, moronic names as Poohbah has called posters here-and then whine about the emotional postings?

My habit is to return fire when fired upon. Don't like it? Then avoid the nasty remarks to me.

"Those who seek to avoid war should avoid the pinpricks that precede the cannonballs." -- Napoleon Bonaparte

44 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:52 PM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Poohbah
BTW, be advised: FR is now on several state law enforcement agency's watch lists thanks to some of the more idiotic statements made during this fiasco

So? They've undoubtedly been watching for years.

Good. Maybe they will learn some things. Granted, you have to put some "truth" and "bigot" filters in place when scanning through some of the posts, many posters here have actually helped get at some of the truth the mainstream media and authorities missed until days later, or deliberately didn't report because they were too lazy to dig deeply enough from their cushy offices or it didn't fit their agenda to mold the opinions of the American people.

Major stories have been broken here.

Several freepers have picked up on some things that everybody else missed.

And there is stuff on here that is raw human emotion. I've seen plenty of that on the other side, too. We are all human, after all, those of us that aren't diagnosed as vegetables yet.

45 posted on 04/01/2005 3:04:07 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Aliska
Good. Maybe they will learn some things.

Hope you're saying that when you try to get on an airplane, or get pulled over.

46 posted on 04/01/2005 3:06:02 PM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Poohbah
You are cracking me up! I am not referring to me- did you call me a hateful name? (shrugs shoulders) Oh, I didn't notice. LOL!

Aren't you supposed to be preparing for your major temper tantrum now?

Don't you have more people's religious beliefs to spit upon?

What are you going to do, call everyone who believes in God a very bad name???

I can't wait to see it. Perhaps I should cancel my dinner plans and stick around.

I am certain as a "spokesperson" for the GOP the "religious right" deserves a good stomping by you.

47 posted on 04/01/2005 3:08:55 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Anything those wild-eyed ignorant slackjawed RELIGIOUS PEOPLE *shudder* are for, you and your self-appointed band of all-wise philosopher kings are against.

You're exactly right. Genuine Christians, who are thoughtful, mannered, refrain from ad hominems and insults, however, are people I can agree with.

48 posted on 04/01/2005 3:11:29 PM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: LadyDoc
Many liberals supported Schiavo's right to life because they remember the Nazi T4 program...it's a civil rights issue...especially for Jews who remember history.

And maybe Jesse Jackson remembers history too, like the Tuskeegee experiment.


Yeah, I agree that is it unfair to lay all or most of the blame on liberals and Democrats, unfortunatly, there are Republicans and conservatives who are pro-death either by thought or through their inaction. In fact, this issue does cross ideological lines, heck, in the case of Terri, I have more in common with some liberals and feminists than I do with some Freepers who wanted to let her die. I know slightly more Democrats did vote not to save Terri but the split was like 45% to 55% pro-death but that is near a statistical tie. I don't see this as a left/right issue, but a "right/wrong" issue.

First Terri, now the Pope, that bottle of Jim Beam is looking good to me. B-P
49 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:32 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I heard Satan laughing with delight, the day Terri died. B-( (with apologies to Don McLean))
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To: sinkspur

Aren't you glad you are so much better than we ignorant knaves, oh great one?


50 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Poohbah
Hope you're saying that when you try to get on an airplane, or get pulled over.

For what, refusing to be intimidated into silence? I don't plan on ever getting on an airplane again as I'm afraid of flying and don't want my stuff in my purse stolen and not returned.

I do know better than to mouth off when I am pulled over on the very rare occasions I have been and humbly submit to their authority. I am kind of afraid they will shoot me or something if I get the wrong one on a lonely dark road at night.

Most of my experiences with law enforcement have been positive, and I helped them solve a murder case. And believe you me, you have to be damn careful if you give them helpful information that they won't use your phone to try to find out if a criminal is home when your relative has given them the information they need for an arrest warrant. Caller ID and all that.

51 posted on 04/01/2005 3:16:46 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Aren't you glad you are so much better than we ignorant knaves, oh great one?

Joe, you're not ignorant.

You only play ignorant on Free Republic.

52 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:27 PM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Aliska
For what, refusing to be intimidated into silence?

For participating in a forum that went way the hell over the top in terms of acceptable discourse. Guess what? When people talk about judges meeting "fatal accidents" and such, the authorities tend to not be very humorous about it. And they tend to look rather dimly on those who associate with those people.

Sweetie, you'd better have the cleanest damn underwear in all history if you're ever in an accident.

53 posted on 04/01/2005 3:23:24 PM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: sinkspur

Right, if I were merely ignorant and not truly evil then I would occasionally make a mistake in your favor.


54 posted on 04/01/2005 3:26:06 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Poohbah
You hang out here. That places you in the same category unless you are here to provoke people into going over the top and making threats, etc.

I have thought about the other. There are some nice, decent human beings who hang out here. When they all leave, I'll leave, too. The regular newsgroups are much worse. They say terrible things about people like us, religious conservatives, call us bigots, fanatics, blaspheme God, can't wait until the pope is dead (say much worse than that about him) threaten to turn people into their isp's when they don't like what they say, death threats, seriously crazy people, and even try to find out where people live and either stalk them, offer money to have their kids harmed, turn them in to their church leaders, use filthy language, etc., none of which is allowed here. I must have forgotten a lot of things. I haven't seen anything that bad here 'cuz the mods are smart enough to flush that kind of stuff.

That is not going to scare me away. There isn't any other site on the net like this one that I have found. In spite of the vitriol, I talk to some folks here who ease my loneliness and I can find common ground with on some topics.

55 posted on 04/01/2005 3:42:51 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Aliska
You hang out here.

Not for long.

That places you in the same category unless you are here to provoke people into going over the top and making threats, etc.

And now we have the standard liberal argument: "It's not my fault, he made me do it, society made me do it."

WTF ever happened to taking personal responsibility?

56 posted on 04/01/2005 3:47:28 PM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Aliska; Poohbah
The regular newsgroups are much worse. They say terrible things about people like us, religious conservatives, call us bigots, fanatics, blaspheme God, can't wait until the pope is dead (say much worse than that about him) threaten to turn people into their isp's when they don't like what they say, death threats, seriously crazy people, and even try to find out where people live and either stalk them, offer money to have their kids harmed, turn them in to their church leaders, use filthy language, etc., none of which is allowed here.

I can attest to some groups, but those threats are pretty empty. There is no room for death threats anywhere.

That is not going to scare me away. There isn't any other site on the net like this one that I have found. In spite of the vitriol, I talk to some folks here who ease my loneliness and I can find common ground with on some topics.

If you think about it, anyone can get dirt on anyone. For the government to do it effectively, it would take how many meg of data per person, multiplied by how many people, with analysts to sift it all. Unless you really tick off someone who wants to attack you, ordinary joes are pretty safe.
57 posted on 04/01/2005 3:54:43 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Poohbah
And now we have the standard liberal argument: "It's not my fault, he made me do it, society made me do it."

Yeah, I've been threatened with that, too, when I don't go along with the groupthink, which I don't always do. Then things have gone ugly for me, but I usually weather the storm. I took a real beating on the harp seal thread. I'll stay away from those for awhile.

I don't know what's got you so upset about me. Sometimes I post something and wonder if there will be a knock on my door. That doesn't stop me from posting.

I'm already on so many lists, what's one more? I am not going to live in fear the rest of my life. Once we live in fear of the government, or the opposition, we are done.

58 posted on 04/01/2005 4:03:52 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Dominick
There is no room for death threats anywhere.

I agree. As to their being empty, tell that to the people against whom they are made. Usually they get irate rather than scared, and I haven't monitored any of the really sick groups. I kind of admire that. I would lose a couple of nights' sleep at least.

We ordinary joes can't afford private bodyguards. At least, I can't.

59 posted on 04/01/2005 4:14:00 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Aliska
"death threats, seriously crazy people, and even try to find out where people live and either stalk them,"

You haven't seen anything that bad here? I have.

60 posted on 04/01/2005 8:17:03 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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