Schiavo: Awakening A Sleeping Giant

davidlimbaugh.com ^ | 3/31/05 | david limbaugh

[lancer256]

I hope mr. limbaugh is correct:

Schiavo: Awakening A Sleeping Giant by David Limbaugh

It is just possible, contrary to my original thoughts, that the tragic Schiavo case will not usher in a slippery slope toward euthanasia but cause a double-barreled backlash against both the "Culture of Death" and judicial activism.

To be sure, the legal precedent established in this case, at least in Florida, represents an affirmative devaluation of human life and opens the door to further troubling scenarios, involving the state-sanctioned murder of the inconvenient, based on "quality of life" assessments.

But I sense in this nation a growing outrage at the arrogance and unaccountability of our judiciary, and at the cavalier attitude many are exhibiting toward life.

[maine-iac7]

Don't write a death contract on yourself in the hubris and comfort of a day when you are strong and healthy -- because on the day whan that changes your mindset and outlook about what you can and will live with is likely to change too.

I heard a doctor on FOX yesterday say that the 9 out of 10 critical patients he deals with - who have, when hale and hearty, expressed the 'do not resuscitate' - CHANGE THEIR MINDS when they find themselves slipping into that situation

[schu]

Wow, where to start:

I believe it was a blessing

Projection, your "feelings" on this issue are totally irrelevant and nonsensical. The evidence that Terri wanted to die is inconclusive at best.

This utilitarian nonsense, that the sum of the good and bad for things like war and firearms is just the "price to be paid" is completely without merit. These issues, to defend ourselves, free speech, to live in freedom, equal protection, freedom of religion, they are not based upon maximum utility, they are based upon God given rights. Maximum utility would more often DENY these rights, Peter Singer would be proud.

The base of this case is that there was a family dispute on what to do with Terri. Despite no specific & concrete evidence to support MS's position that Terri wanted to die, the courts ORDERED her to be starved to death. I just do not see the basic morality in allowing this to happen.

[maine-iac7]

Euthanasia, the liberal solution to social security!!

This was not euthanasia. Euthanasia is when a when a DYING person is helped/hastened to die.

Terri, who was not dying, was brutally and slowly murdered.

[maine-iac7]

Tom Delay promised a serious response of some kind to Judge Greer. It has yet to materialize.

I surmise because he has the humanity and decency to wait until the family has had time to grieve and see to her final resting place!

[maine-iac7]

When people see someone in a physical condition that they find distasteful, they think that it is a life no longer worth living. I have to admit, that I don't believe that I would have wanted to live as Terri Schiavo did for 15 years. This entire issue has me baffled.

Congratulations. you're human.

However, we never can know unless we find ourselves in that situation. Dr.s who deal with these patients say nearly all of them opt for life, even so -

naturally, when we're young and healthy, we can't conceive of wanting to be that condition.

[maine-iac7]

So all laws are, by definition, constitutional? No law should ever be thrown out by a court?

Bad laws need to be thrown out or amended by the law making body - the branch of government given the right to make law. That's the legislature. (dictionary)"Legislature: a body of persons having the power to legislate; specifically : an organized body having the authority to make laws"

The judges are to UPHOLD the law - not make or throw out - which they are now doing across the country.

It's called separation of powers -

May be wrong, but that's the way I understand it...

[Shery]

"I pray he is right, but what about the polls? They indicated a greater number supporting the tube being pulled."

Did any of you do the polls? I looked for them, but found none. They pulled them pretty quick, since they were sure that the majority of their regular readers were for pulling the tube, they didn't wait for us to find them and freep them. Those polls can be done by anybody, as often as they want. So, the significance of them is nil.

[malakhi]

If you disagree with the ability of the judiciary to arbitrate the constitutionality of laws, you are going against 200 years of American legal precedent. This principle was decided in Marbury v. Madison in 1803.

[bvw]

It may be one of the most evil vistories acheived by the enemy in this matter has been the damned "living wills" writen to reult in just such scenarios -- a later undesired murder/sucide by a person's own words of years ago.

[diamond6]

What can we do as a nation to prevent this again? I feel so ashamed; I feel like I've let Terri down.

Sob!

[diamond6]

I found this a little interesting:

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IS THERE A MYSTERIOUS DARK FORCE THAT HOVERS OVER THAT SPOT CALLED PINELLAS?

There is a mysterious feeling around the Schiavo case, and we wish we knew what it was.

The feeling is this: Pinellas County or parts of it seem to be under the oppression of a dark spirit. From Scripture we know that powers and principalities are the real force with which we contend, and that they hover over vicinities (see Daniel and the "prince of Persia").

Is there one hovering over towns in that county, towns with names like Pinellas Park and Clearwater?

These are places, of course, that figure prominently and at times bafflingly into the Schiavo catastrophe.

There is something in or over Pinellas that is darker than black.

Clearwater, as many of you may recall, is where there is that office building that once had a reflection of the Blessed Mother, perfectly proportionate to the Virgin of Guadalupe (who is the emblem of pro-life in the U.S.).

Last year, it was smashed.

We ran stories about that, and about how this area seems to be the epicenter of a spiritual war. We did not know that the epicenter would be for a quake of this magnitude.

The spirit seems to have a stranglehold on officials at all levels in this area. Let us not name names. There are many involved, and they are perhaps unknowingly blinded by the devil, who of course is prince of darkness. Is there a residue from pagan Indian worship? Is it the strip clubs, the lewdness? Is it an occult spirit?

Oh, many good people here, for sure; real warriors. So many devout people here. And they have their war cut out for them.

Strange vibrations. Could it be something in the air? Could it be a spiritual "hotspot"?

There is the headquarters for the Shriners, a seemingly innocuous group of Masons who ride around on tricycles and raise money for hospitals. That's actually in the next town called Tampa. There are fortune-telling parlors. In Clearwater itself, there is the headquarters for Scientology.

Is Scientology evil? It is certainly deceived. And it is certainly a cult.

Let's hover here a moment. And let's say this: the "church" of Scientology is certainly well-connected in the Pinellas area. A hotel Scientology owns called the Fort Harrison is its headquarters. Clearwater is near where Terri has been kept. It is home to Michael Schiavo. It is home to many players in this drama. Can a spirit rub off?

Ironically, Scientologists in Clearwater faced a major lawsuit a while ago over the death of a member named Lisa McPherson, who, the suit alleged, was isolated, starved, and dehydrated as part of an attempt to make her fall back into line. The lawsuit asserted that "Scientologists are ordered to and have been successful in infiltrating other organizations and government agencies, newspapers, medical associations, psychological associations, and psychiatric associations throughout the world." Scientology's "mecca" is Clearwater, says the literature.

The Church of Scientology was established by Lafayette Ronald Hubbard (1911-1986). He was a highly successful author, publishing hundreds of novels, novelettes and short stories, most of them science fiction.

In 1950, his book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health was published; it has since sold over twenty million copies worldwide. In 1951, Hubbard formed the religious philosophy of Scientology. The Founding Church of Scientology was opened in Washington, D.C. during 1955.

Scientologists follow Hubbard's belief that a person is neither mind nor body, but a spiritual being -- a soul. However, notes one website, the word "soul" is an ambiguous term, which had been given many meanings by many religions. In order to avoid confusion, Mr. Hubbard selected the word "thetan" from the Greek letter "theta" which has traditionally meant "thought" or "life."

"The magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating," Hubbard once wrote. "The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but is a fascinating work in itself, and that's the work of Aleister Crowley -- the late Aleister Crowley -- my very good friend."

Crowley was one of the blackest figures in history, a man his own mother called "The Beast," and one who is cited as the inspiration for the Church of Satan.

Said Hubbard's son in an interview: "I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in the house! Scientology and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology --and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works. Also, you've got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan."

Beware, Clearwater. Beware, Pinellas County!

What else is in Pinellas? What attracts a dark force? Oh, let us not be quick to condemn. Let us not deem the above as all evil. But it is very spooky.

Is there an occult virus in Pinellas? Or is something like Scientology just a symbol of the secular humanism that pervades our society?

Scientology, or at least certain Scientologists, have held the view that disabled people are a burden to society and founder L. Ronald Hubbard once lamented the way society "will not hear of euthanasia or 'mercy killing.'"

Oh, woe; woe when we rub the wrong elbow, Clearwater. A cult? Or just human blindness?

The devil is there and in many parts of the United States and around all of us when we exhibit arrogance. He was around police, around lawyers, around medical caregivers, around judges. He was around that poor kid who busted the image in that office building. Something in Clearwater!

Can we pin it to a cult? We can say that the devil has sway in any number of organizations and can cause a movement of darkness that surrounds men and offers them blindness. The Schiavo saga is at least that: one of blindness.

And so, yes, it appears as that the devil is the big winner, victor in the Schiavo case; it seems like that.

But there is resurrection after crucifixion (Christ showed that) and we have a knowledge that no cult possesses:

That the devil may look like the big victor right now -- yes, big victor! -- but that he loses, big-time, in every way, in the end.

[resources: Prayer of the Warrior]

[ninenot]

Between David and Rush, who has mercilessly flogged GrimGreer, Mikey, and the Fed courts, (backed up with the facts on Terri's situation) it's likely that the country's opinion on this will gradually but inexorably change to where it SHOULD be.

Rush has done the right thing, unceasingly, on this topic.

[Frapster]

We'll see. I'm not holding my breath.

[the invisib1e hand]

In Honor of Terri Schiavo.

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[sinkspur]

Did you hear that the Pope died? It's been in all the papers.