Posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:11 AM PST by Eurotwit
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The GAL was dismissed because when he found that Michael Schiavo had a conflict of interest, Felos filed for his dismissal on the grounds that the GAL (Pearson) was biased. And of course, Greer obliged- as ALWAYS to whatever Felos said or wanted.
That was Greer's ACTIONS through all of this. "If ya don't agree with me, you must be biased, whack, ignored, and/or sealed."
I'm not batman, but would LOVE to respond..
An attorney would be compelled to represent TERRI.
NOt her husband, not her parents, JUST TERRI!
Weather we want to admit it or not- both sides had self- interests.
Those of Michael, to move on, and those of her parents- the natural instinct to protect their child, nurture her and hold-out hope. I, of course, can easily see the motives of the parents as more pure than those of Michael.
But someone to represent Terri would literally be putting themselves in HER shoes. Would she want a guardian that sat in court professing his love for her and desires to honor his wedding vows while bedding another woman, only to turn around after he didn't get the 20 million he wanted- to then deny her the care he promised and begged for the money in order to give to her? I think not. Imagine being TOTALLY helpless, and the one speaking for you is your husband- bedding another woman, and taking the money for your care, then stopping all your care. PATHETIC!
No one would want a guradian like that!
Our courts are about LAW, not truth and justice- this is NOT what our forefathers intended.... but rather what they feared.....
"Anyone who calls anyone else a "murderer" over this issue, or any other in FR, is going to be subject to well-earned, well-deserved criticism."
Really? Kindly discover that Florida statutes, while amended to permit the removal of life-sustaining apparatus, explicitly forbid the withholding of oral hydration.
Was Terri capable of orally ingesting small quantities of fluids? Yes, the documented absence of drooling attests to her ability to swallow her own saliva.
Could her alleged mid-1980s statement to not want to be "kept alive by anything artificial" possibly have included a categorical rejection of oral nutrition and hydration? No, for two obvious reasons. First, then and current Florida statutes make the withholding of oral hydration and nutrition a class A felony, colloquially known as murder. Second, Even the most liberal interpretation of "anything artificial" could not include a spoon or a manually operated dropper.
By the way, at the time of the alleged statement not even feeding tubes were considered life-sustaining apparatus, and their withdrawal -- with or without the patient's consent -- was treated as murder. In view of the fact that Terri has not had a chance to adjust her alleged statement to the subsequent Florida statute-amendment that included feeding tubes, we have to assume that in Terri's mid-1980s mindset even feeding tube withdrawal constitutes the unwanted experience of being murdered.
Regardless of the subtleties pertaining to the feeding tube issue, there is no federal or Florida law permitting the withholding of oral hydration from a patient capable of receiving it. The posting of guards at the patient's door to prevent -- among other things -- the administration of oral hydration can therefore not be seen as anything other than a component in an act of murder.
You may argue that the withdrawal of the feeding tube was for the specific purpose of honoring Terri's alleged wish to not be sustained by "anything artificial," and that her subsequent death resulting from the withdrawal was sanctioned by law. Terri, however, did not die from the feeding tube withdrawal. She died from dehydration effected by the withholding of oral hydration. Had she been given fluids by mouth, as the law states was her right, she would not be dead at this moment, even though her alleged wish of being freed from "anything artificial" would have been honored all the same.
Withholding a vital substance like water by mouth is no less murder than withholding a vital substance like air would be. If, after the feeding tube removal, Terri's room would have been made air-tight to cause her to suffocate, would it have raised your eyebrows? If so, why should it not raise your eyebrows that her room was made watertight by the posting of guards? That is what caused her death, not the debatable merits of feeding tube removal.
Remember that Terri's capacity to orally ingest fluids in small quantity was evidenced by her ability to swallow her own saliva, just as her capacity to orally ingest air was evidenced by the unaided expansion of her ribs. Had it been a respirator that was removed, her natural ability to inhale would have sustained her. Likewise, after the removal of the feeding tube her natural ability to swallow fluids would have sustained her. Now, with which part of the classification of murder in this case do you take issue?
A word about the Honorable Schwein Greer.
Greer fails the test of judicial impartiality on dozens of counts in Terri's case. His mode of adjudication could serve as a case study in selective application. Greer routinely accepted into evidence what favored Schwein Felos' arguments while rejecting what would have favored the Schindlers. Here is a telling comparison.
Greer found no problem with making a 1999 Florida statute amendment effective retroactively to apply to Terry's wishes allegedly expressed in the mid-1980s after watching an episode of a TV hospital series. Moreover, he failed to take into consideration that Terri could not have referred to a feeding tube withdrawal because at that time such a procedure would have caused a physician to be charged with murder. In some ways, Greer's retroactive application is not dissimilar to now convicting someone under the new anti-terrorism statutes for having made a "bomb joke" in an airport 13 years ago when there was no prohibition against it.
Should Schwein Greer be given the benefit of doubt in the sense of viewing him as merely ignorant rather than evil? Perhaps he just suffers from a condition that compels him toward retroactive application? Let's see. He accepted notorious medical court whore Dr. Cranford's glib diagnosis of PVS for Terri. It was brought to his attention that neurologists now routinely demand MRI and PET scans to determine the scope of brain damage, let alone diagnosing PVS. Did Retroactive Schwein Greer rush to fill the glaring gaps in Terri's diagnosis as would be expected from someone of his compulsion? Far from it. Schwein Greer not only failed to order the missing tests to complete his own records but ruled in favor of Schwein Schiavo's categorically forbidding the tests altogether, along with the equally routine swallowing test.
Schwein Greer vigorously defended a sham diagnosis of PVS while applying a new statute to a situation of 13 years earlier when it did not exist. Any questions?
So when is my opinion intentionally misleading? You are intentionally misleading, since I did not intend that and you overtly put "words in my mouth". I expressed an opinion. I still think tha t he was essentially fired. He requested to stay on. He was denied after, Michael Schiavo fought the GAL's opinion and called him biased. I did not say he was fired. I used the word essentially for a reason. Now you may not like my opinion, but guess what? SO WHAT? I'm sincerely tired of discussing this with you when you have such an attitude. So have at it with someone else. The law clearly states "right to counsel". Terri did not have counsel when the Judge ordered her to be killed. END OF STORY.
When it posits something that doesn't exist, that's when. Come on now - "fired" is a binary state. Either you're fired, or you're not, but "essentially fired" is just weaseling. And I notice you didn't address what the lawyer was supposed to have done in the situation you presented as one where a lawyer would have made a difference.
Was he not relieved prior to the final decision for which he was hired to represent Terri and for which he requested to continue on? I am finished with you.
v. fired, fir·ing, fires
v. tr.
He presented his recommendations to the court and was discharged, having done his duty. And now I'm done with you.
As opposed to the real weasels who try to use their own definitions and other tools of obfuscation when their arguments are like tissue paper. Pearse, was essentially fired nearly one year prior to the Death sentence give to Terri Schiavo. He was hired to consider the request on behalf of Terri and he found Michael not to be clear and convincing. His opinion was a roadblock to the death sentence. He had to be eliminated. He was. NO OTHER GAL WAS HIRED ON BEHALF OF TERRI TO REPRESENT HER FROM THAT POINT ON UNTIL TERRI'S LAW WAS PASSED.
Until next time, AC.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
I directly answered your sniping Ad Hominem as I answer this new charge.
What is the purpose of your detour into semantics? Fired, dismissed, discharged, etc. Is there a point to stressing nuances of verbal definition instead of acknowledging broad facts?
Fact: For most of her subjection to life and death decisions Terri did not have a guardian ad litem although the law entitled her to one. This is analogous to a judge's decision that an incarcerated defendant has no need of the court-appointed lawyer provided for by the law.
Fact: The Schindlers repeatedly and unsuccessfully requested that a GAL be appointed and demonstrated adequate need for one. This is analogous to a judge's refusal to grant a defendant's request for counsel.
Fact: All motions to deprive Terri of a GAL came from her guardian, the very person whose ambitions the law seeks to check by means of an independent GAL. This is analogous to the President's requesting that the Judiciary dismiss the Legislature as an unnecessary party to safeguarding the people's interests.
Fact: On a motion by Felos Judge Greer dismissed the initial GAL after he advised that aspects of Michael Schiavo's guardianship were potentially detrimental to the ward's interests. This is analogous to the mayor's dismissing the police for uncovering corruption in the city council.
Fact: Judge Greer did not address the GAL's legitimate concerns but, instead, made it impossible for him to continue pressing for a resolution. This is analogous to a judge's exonerating the defendant by dismissing the prosecutor.
Fact: Judge Greer did not appoint another GAL despite the unresolved issues raised by the first one, but declared himself Terri's de facto guardian ad litem. This is analogous to a judge's dismissing the defendant's lawyers and declaring himself to henceforth be both judge and defense.
Fact: When subsequent to signing Terri's Law the governor mandated the appointment of a GAL, the court severely reduced his scope from that envisioned by the law and predetermined the duration of his office. This is analogous to a judge's limiting the defense to a single item of his own choosing and then barring it from the rest of the proceedings.
Fact: Judge Greer turned a blind eye to Michael Schiavo's failure to file legally mandated guardianship papers for three consecutive years and in other years found a single word sufficient to satisfy legal requirements for the equally mandated guardianship plan: "None." This is analogous to the Judiciary's telling Congress to not insist on proof that the President was duly elected and to pay all bills without requiring a detailed budget from the President.
Fact: Despite the conflict of interest pinpointed by the first GAL, and despite Michael Shiavo's manifest dereliction in guardianship requirements Greer saw no need for the guardian ad litem intended by the law exactly for such contingencies. This is analogous to the Attorney General's failure to convene a grand jury despite evidence presented by the FBI that points to an ongoing criminal operation in government.
There is plenty more that can be said about Greer's unbelievably mercenary refusal to have Terri's interests be safeguarded in court by an independent GAL, but if what I cited does not strain your immunity to fact then you may as well continue indulging in a pastime of semantic nitpicking. Toward what end you would want to take such a course is beyond me.
Where is the evidence for this? It is in direct violation of Florida Law and is justification for the guardian's removal.
Florida law as it is now---
744.367 Duty to file annual guardianship report.--
(5) If the guardian fails to timely file the annual guardianship report, the judge may impose sanctions which may include contempt, removal of the guardian, or other sanctions provided by law in s. 744.3685.
744.3685 Order requiring guardianship report; contempt.--When a guardian fails to file the guardianship report, the court shall order the guardian to file the report within 15 days after the service of the order upon her or him or show cause why she or he should not be compelled to do so. A copy of the order shall be served on the guardian or on the guardian's resident agent. If the guardian fails to file her or his report within the time specified by the order without good cause, the court may cite the guardian for contempt of court and may fine her or him. The fine may not be paid out of the ward's property.
More due process violations.
AndrewC,
There are various collections of court documents pertinent to Terri's case available on the web. In the course of several years of following this I have seen copies of the guardianship reports and references to the missing items. I do not have the time at the moment to look for the sources, but if you do have the time you can find them. I will attach a petition to the Florida Legislature that is currently circulating. While some of the points may be considered pedantic, the outline of Greer's defiance of the judicial canons and the Florida statutes can serve as a guide for investigating particulars. Hope this helps.
Taken from http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html
To: Florida House of Representatives
Whereas the Florida Constitution Article III Section 17 provides for the impeachment of judges for misdemeanor in office, misdemeanor being defined as a misdeed or offense less than a felony.
Whereas Judge George W. Greer is a judge in the 6th circuit court of Florida and bound to rule in agreement with Florida Statutes and the Judicial Code of Ethics,
The undersigned are petitioning Florida House Speaker Johnnie Byrd and the Florida House of Representatives to impeach Judge George W. Greer pursuant to the provisions in the Florida Constitution for the following violations of Statutes and Judicial Canons, which prove justification for impeachment.
Judge George W. Greer has caused public confidence in the judiciary to deteriorate due to his rulings regarding Terri Schiavo and thus violated Judicial Canon 1.
Judge George W. Greer has made rulings, which advance the private interests of Michael Schiavo, George Felos, and Senate President Jim King by allowing the statutes, which apply, to persons with terminal illness to order the death of Terri Schiavo by dehydration and starvation at the request of Michael Schiavo and thus is in violation of Judicial Canon 2B.
Judge George W. Greer has not ruled according to law in the case of whether to remove Terri Schiavos tube by which she receives nutrition and hydration. The rulings, which are inconsistent with Florida Statutes and Constitution, are:
1. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(2 ) for failure to discharge his duties as guardian. The statute requires that the guardian protect the rights of the ward, provide for her health and safety, properly manage her financial resources and help her regain her abilities to the maximum extent possible.
2. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(3) for abuse of his powers as evidenced by his denying her any significant sensory stimulation and his efforts to have her life ended.
3. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(7) for wasting, embezzlement, or other mismanagement of the ward's property, one example is Michaels statement on national television that he had Terris wedding rings melted down and made into jewelry for himself.
4. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(11) because of a conflict of interest between the ward and the guardian due to Michael Schiavo living with and fathering children with another woman.
5. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(13) for failure to comply with the guardianship report.
6. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(14) for failure to file annual guardianship reports in a timely manner.
7. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(16) for improperly managing the wards assets by using Terris money which was awarded by a court to be used for her rehabilitation but at the authorization of Judge Greer is being used to pay legal fees in an effort to end Terris life.
8. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(17) because there has been a significant change in Terris assets due to the actions of her guardian. Terris assets have likely increased since her accident and Michael Schiavo is denying Terri the benefit of any assets accrued after the malpractice award which would be equally hers as Michaels legal spouse.
9. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian even though he should be removed as Terris guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(18) because Michaels adulterous relationship (which is a misdemeanor under Florida law) with another woman ought to disqualify Michael as a suitable guardian for Terri as the interest which Michael said (in malpractice trial court proceedings) he had toward Terri is directed to another woman who is not his wife and has two children by said other woman of whom he is the father.
10. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to remain as Terris guardian and has aided Michael in abusing, neglecting, and exploiting Terri, a vulnerable adult, by appropriating funds that were awarded for her rehabilitation to pay legal fees, and has aided in exploiting Terri by denying the money to be used for her benefit. Both these infractions were committed with the
knowledge that Terri lacked the capacity to consent and explained in detail in Florida Statute 415.102.
11. Judge Greers rulings to date have deprived Terri Schiavo of her constitutional right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property which are detailed in Section 2 of the Florida Constitution by ordering her life to be ended by denying her hydration and nutrition.
12. Judge Greer has deprived Terri of her constitutional religious rights by allowing Michael Schiavo to prevent Monsignor Malonowski from visiting Terri, by allowing Michael to prevent Monsignor Malinowski from administering last rites when her feeding tube was removed in October 2003, and by allowing Michael to prevent Terris blood relatives from placing pictures of religious figures in her room.
13. Judge Greer has allowed Terris constitutional right to privacy to be violated by Michael Schiavo by not restricting his comments during interviews on national television.
14. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215C(a) To have an annual review of the guardianship report and plan.
15. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215(b) (b) to have continuing review of the need for restriction of her rights.
16. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right to be restored to capacity, FL statute 744.3215C.
17. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215(d) (d) to be treated humanely, with dignity and respect, and to be protected against abuse, neglect, and exploitation.
18. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215(e) to have a qualified guardian.
19. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215(f) to remain as independent as possible, including having her preference as to place and standard of living honored, either as she expressed or demonstrated her preference prior to the determination of his or her incapacity or as she currently expresses her preference, insofar as such request is reasonable.
20. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215 (g) to be properly educated. She is not receiving any rehabilitative therapy.
21. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215 (h) to receive prudent financial management for her property and to be informed how her property is being managed. Michael Schiavo stated on national television that he melted Terris wedding rings down and had them made into jewelry for himself.
22. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215 (i) to receive necessary services and rehabilitation. Judge Greer has allowed Michael to deprive Terri of the same. She did not have a working wheelchair for an extended and unnecessarily long period of time.
23. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215 (k) to have access to the courts. Judge Greer has relied upon the testimony of others related to Michael Schiavo as to Terris condition yet ignored the testimony of her blood relatives which was contradictory to information provided by Michael and his family.
24. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215(l) to counsel.
25. Judge Greer has denied Terri the right under 744.3215(m) to receive visitors and communicate with others.
26. Judge Greer has allowed violation of 744.3215(a) by allowing Terri to be moved to different facilities without prior approval of the court.
27. Judge Greer has allowed violation of 744.3215(b) not requiring Michael to have follow up examinations of electrodes, which were implanted in Terris brain. These implants should have been removed years ago, as they are a source for both infection and hydrocephalus. Hydrocephalus may cause pressure that could suppress cognitive function and be responsible for much of Terris condition. If so, there could be a vast improvement in her condition if a shunt were placed. Hydrocephalus could also cause pressure that would flatten the brain and show fluid filled areas on a brain scan.
28. Judge Greer has allowed Michael to violate a court order stating that he is to keep Terris family advised of her medical condition.
29. Judge Greer has ignored Terris right under 765.102(5)(a) to palliative care which addresses physical, psychological, social, spiritual, and existential needs of patients.
30. Judge Greer has not required Michael Schiavo to implement a plan which would provide for Terris needs under 765.102(5)(a).
31. Judge Greer has allowed Michael Schiavo to neglect Guardianship Education, which is a requirement under Florida law.
32. Judge Greer relied on Dr. Ronald Cranfords definition of PVS (Persistent Vegetative State) instead of the legal definition contained in the Florida Statutes. There were several doctors who gave reports that Terri is not PVS but Greer decided not to use the Florida Statutes definition.
33. Judge Greer has failed to be impartial and has ignored testimony and evidence presented by Counsel for Terris natural family and has consistently ruled in agreement with Counsel for Michael Schiavo.
34. Judge Greer has allowed Michael to continue denying visitation to Terris family even though a police investigation found that they were not responsible for marks found on her arm.
35. Judge Greer in his February 11, 2000 Order, committed malpractice by
misdiagnosing Terri as being an unconscious and unaware person and then ordered the Guardian of the Ward to commit a 1st Degree Felony Crime by removing Terri's feeding tube and denying her constitutional and legal right to be protected and not feloniously victimized by being caused to die.
35. Judge Greer authorized the euthanization of Terri Schiavo by authorizing the removal of her feeding tube when she does not fit the definition of PVS under Florida statutes. Euthanasia is illegal in Florida.
36. Judge Greer has violated the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA), 42 U.S.C. Sections 12101 provides that necessary and appropriate rehabilitation services and physical/motor skill therapy may not be denied a substantially disabled patient in the United States of America.
37. Judge Greer has violated the ADA Cf 28 CFR, Ch 1, Subpart B, Sect 35.130 States "Nothing in the Act or this part authorizes the representative or guardian of an individual with a disability to decline food, water, medical treatment, or medical services for that individual."
38. Judge Greer has violated FS 38.10 four times by not disqualifying himself from the case when it was requested. The statute states whenever a party to any action or proceeding makes and files an affidavit stating fear that he or she will not receive a fair trial in the court where the suit is pending on account of the prejudice of the judge of that court against the applicant or in favor of the adverse party, the judge shall proceed no further, but another judge shall be designated in the manner prescribed by the laws of this state for the substitution of judges for the trial of causes in which the presiding judge is disqualified.
The rulings and actions listed above are in violation of Judicial Canon 3B(2)
Judge Greer has violated Judicial Canon 3B(4) as seen in a video clip of a court proceeding where Judge Greer was visibly impatient and angry during court proceedings. The video can be viewed at this url. http://real.scripps.com:8480/ramgen/tampalive/news/2003/11/1105schiavo.rm
Judge Greer should be investigating whether any life insurance policies have been purchased or other investments made with funds intended for Terri, which would cause Michael Schiavo to profit from her death.
Judge Greer serves on the Committee for Guardianship Monitoring but is, in fact, violating the intentions and guidelines established by the Committee. Information concerning the Committee for Guardianship Monitoring may be found at this url http://www.flcourts.org/osca/divisions/Guardian/guardianshipmonitoring.pdf
1. Judge Greer has neglected the mission of guardianship monitoring in Terris case.The mission of guardianship monitoring is to collect, provide, and evaluate information about the well-being and property of all persons adjudicated of having a legal incapacity so that the court can fulfill its legal obligation to protect and preserve the interests of the ward, and thereby promote confidence in the judicial process.
2. Page 5 of the document contains Thus, the court must be proactive to discover and respond to disputes and issues. Judge Greer has intentionally ignored disputed issues in Terris case and not made any ruling to correct them.
3. On page 6 of the document is this statement An ideal guardianship monitoring program encompasses four major service areas: (1) initial and on-going screening and reviewing of guardians; (2) reporting on the well-being of the ward; (3) reporting on the protection of the wards assets; and (4) case administration. Judge Greers flagrant oversight of Michael Shiavos violations of the statutes pertaining to guardians is certainly no example for any monitoring program.
4. It is unclear whether Judge Greer has required Michael Schiavo to meet all the requirements of a guardian (listed on page 6 of the document). A family member guardian is required to hire an attorney, provide detailed personal information, undergo a credit check, post a fiduciarys bond, attend an 8-hour training course, and file detailed initial and annual personal and financial reports.
5. Pinellas County employees a full time monitoring staff, which reviews cases to make sure guardianship plans are being filed and followed. It would not have been possible for them to give approval of the plan for Terri since the guardianship plans have not been an important issue with Judge Greer evidenced by his granting Michael extensions to file the plan. Judge Greer is deliberately undermining the guardianship monitoring program which was established to make sure that all wards receive the protection they are entitled to by the law.
6. Judge Greer did not adhere to the monitoring guidelines which state that in cases where it appears there is substantial likelihood for serious irreparable harm (similar to the injunctive relief standard), immediate action steps by the court should include but not be limited to: Filing an abuse, neglect, or exploitation complaint with the Department of Children and Families, as required by statute, referral to local law enforcement agencies or the state attorney and, conducting immediate hearings among several other possible actions. Terri is at risk of irreparable harm as long as Michael is her guardian. He didnt want to treat her for an infection, has not had preventive health care examinations for her and stated on national television that he would do whatever it takes to have her feeding tube removed. Michael also stated during the same interview that Terri's teeth were fine but recently she is missing several teeth.
Judge Greers rulings ought to be thrown out due to all these violations and the Supreme Court ruling on May 18, 2004 that states may be liable for money damages for denying disabled persons access to the court.
Terris feeding tube can only be removed if she is PVS and Judge Greers ruling is based on a definition not contained in the Florida Statutes. This is an outrageous liberty which Judge Greer has taken and combined with the other violations of statutes there is no question that he should be removed from his duties immediately.
We urge Florida Speaker of the House Johnnie Byrd and the Florida House of Representatives to begin immediate impeachment proceedings against Judge George W. Greer of the Sixth Judicial Circuit of Florida for the violations contained in this petition.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
Thanks, I appreciate your help. I would guess that 99.9 per cent of the people who thought that Terri should have been murdered failed to look beyond their noses for evidence. Caveat -- That is just my opinion and not an intentional attempt at misleading.
My detour? I think not. By my count, that is the fourth time on this very thread that someone has insisted to me that the guardian was "fired". And that insistence is invariably deployed in support of some variety of conspiracy theory, whereby the supposed "firing" is taken as "evidence" that the system was somehow illicitly manipulated, by Michael Schiavo, by Judge Greer, by some vast conspiracy that is now encompassing the county ME, and so forth and so on.
If I am arguing semantics, sir, it is because words matter, and I refuse to sit back and allow otherwise well-meaning folks to manipulate the language into becoming something it is not. You want an "acknowledging of broad facts"? Then bring me facts, not attempts to weasel your way into an otherwise unsupported conclusion by exploiting the ambiguities of language.
Theft. It happens all the time.
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