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Terri Schiavo has passed away
CNN ^ | 3/31 1005 | CNN

Posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:11 AM PST by Eurotwit

Breaking now on CNN

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To: nicmarlo

Where's the rest?


2,141 posted on 03/31/2005 3:15:16 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Wallace T.

To the point and right on target. Thank you.


2,142 posted on 03/31/2005 3:16:19 PM PST by hershey
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To: general_re
It is further ORDERED AND ADJUDGED that absent a stay from the appellate courts, the guardian, MICHAEL SCHIAVO, shall cause the removal of Nutrition and hydration from the ward, THERESA SCHIAVO, at 1:00 p.m. on Friday, March 18, 2005.

That little word 'shall' made this a death warrant for Terri.

Since when does a probate judge get to issue death warrants in the United States of America? Especially on helpless citizens who have never even been charged with a crime...

Since when can any judge overrule the most fundamental and important principle of our republic?

2,143 posted on 03/31/2005 3:16:28 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: general_re
Write your legislator to change it, if you're in Florida

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the legislature passed some law, only to have it thrown out by (you guessed it) a judge with an agenda.

2,144 posted on 03/31/2005 3:16:44 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: EternalVigilance

Based on what the court determined to be Terri Schiavo's wishes - if it's established that this is what she wanted, then the court is empowered to cause compliance with those wishes.


2,145 posted on 03/31/2005 3:17:41 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re
765.309 Florida Statute: Mercy Killing of Euthanasia Not Authorized; Suicide Distinguished. -- (1) Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, or to permit any affirmative or deliberate act of omission to end the life other than to permit the natural process of dying. (2) The withholding or withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures from a patient in accordance with any provision of this chapter does not, for any purpose, constitute a suicide.

458.326 Florida Statute: Intractable Pain; Authorized Treatment. -- (4) Nothing in this section shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, and no treatment authorized by this section may be used for such purpose.

782.08 Florida Statute: Assisting Self-Murder. -- Every person deliberately assisting another in the commission of self-murder shall be guilty of manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s.775.082, s. 775.083 or s.775.084.

Florida's prohibitions against assisted suicide protects not only the terminally ill, but also the disabled, the elderly, the chronically ill, the severely handicapped.

Withholding food and water by mouth is a deliberate act to end life and is prohibited in the Florida statutes! "Helping" Terri kill herself is assisted suicide and is also prohibited in the Florida statutes.

744.3215 Rights of persons determined incapacitated.--

2,146 posted on 03/31/2005 3:18:39 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: general_re

I thought you knew everything.


2,147 posted on 03/31/2005 3:19:04 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: general_re
That does not supersede one's own right to refuse medical treatment. The Florida constitution does not mandate that life must be forced upon those who do not want it.

So, you're basing your entire argument on the obvious lie of Michael Schiavo...hearsay.

Shifting sand, that...

2,148 posted on 03/31/2005 3:19:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the legislature passed some law, only to have it thrown out by (you guessed it) a judge with an agenda.

Not that I know of. If the Florida leg. wanted to write a law that says that food and water can only be withdrawn if a patient expresses it to ten different witnesses via carved stone tablets, then they certainly have the power to do so. They didn't. They'd like you to blame judges for the shortcomings of the law, but I suggest you don't buy it when voting time comes - they've pulled that "it's not our fault" business for far too long now, IMO.

2,149 posted on 03/31/2005 3:19:51 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Idisarthur

Parents are forever your parents. Children are forever your children. I cannot come close to imagining the true extent of their grief...Mrs. Schindler's especially. There are simply no words as this has continued to sink in throughout the day.


2,150 posted on 03/31/2005 3:20:38 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (http://www.theempirejournal.com/0115056_sheriff_hired_michael_sc.htm)
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To: nicmarlo

I'm sure you can direct me to the post where I claimed to "know everything". In the meantime, what it looks like to me is that you don't have anything to support your contention. If that's not the case, feel free to post the rest.


2,151 posted on 03/31/2005 3:20:50 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re
Well, someone had the authority .. because an armed guard was stationed at Terri's head to make sure her mother didn't commit the dastardly crime of giving her thirsting mouth an ice chip, even to the extent that, when her priest was delivering Holy Communion in the form of sacramental wine, the armed GUARD (I'm fighting not to write the name I'm saying with disgust!!!!!) put his hand ON THE PRIEST'S HAND TO ENSURE THIS!! This is America???
2,152 posted on 03/31/2005 3:21:10 PM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE .... PRAY FOR TERRI AND HER FAMILY. 'WHERE THERE'S LIFE THERE'S HOPE!")
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To: general_re

Homicide. You're defending homicide by the state.


2,153 posted on 03/31/2005 3:21:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: general_re

Support my contention of what? Repeating what the judge ordered? Greer said NO FOOD AND WATER BY MOUTH.


Or what do you not understand?


2,154 posted on 03/31/2005 3:22:37 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Patients have the right to refuse medical treatment, and it is not considered assisted suicide, else the law permitting refusal is meaningless - you're not going to find any court in any state that accepts arguments based on the notion that a particular law is inherently meaningless and without effect. In this case, that refusal came via her legal guardian. If you don't like that outcome, and I sense you don't, then perhaps the laws on guardianship should be changed in Florida.


2,155 posted on 03/31/2005 3:23:29 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: EternalVigilance
So, you're basing your entire argument on the obvious lie of Michael Schiavo...hearsay.

The law allows precisely that. Perhaps the Florida legislature should take that into account as they reconsider the state of the law.

2,156 posted on 03/31/2005 3:24:03 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Terri Schiavo has passed away
I heard. My heartfelt condolences to her family.
2,157 posted on 03/31/2005 3:24:34 PM PST by philman_36
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To: general_re

What do you make of post #2146 then?


2,158 posted on 03/31/2005 3:24:43 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: general_re
GREER DENIES FOOD AND WATER BY MEANS

AGAINST THE LAW


2,159 posted on 03/31/2005 3:25:15 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MeekOneGOP
Rush was all over that today. He was livid.

And properly so. The effect of the anger and frustration of the past few days have caused more brush clearing, old leaf raking and transplanting in my back yard that it has ever seen before.

2,160 posted on 03/31/2005 3:25:17 PM PST by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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