County says it's ready for Minutemen (Cochise County, AZ)

Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona ^ | 03/29/05 | Michael Sullivan

[TLI]

Can you imagine if the state of Mississippi had sought to distort zoning ordinances to frustrate civil rights by denying our Constitutional rights of assembly?

Don't really have to imagine. Lots of my family, over the generations, lived through Mississippi. Specifically, the mid-1800's...

One could say, using today's pee-cee terminology, they were "offended" and engaged in the 19th century equivalent of a "lawsuit."

: - )

[A CA Guy]

Yeah, and I find all these new empoyees the week of the Minutemen being at the border a riot.

You have to know that was desperation to not allow the press to see how bad it really is.

[jpsb]

Bump

[Redbob]

They want a way to recover expenses?

How about the economic impact of 1,000 "tourists" in an area that's not normally what you'd call a tourist "mecca?"

Anybody calculating the economic impact of that?
My guess would be about $100,000 per day added to the local economy, such as it is.

For that matter, what's the cost to the County of the dozens of illegals passing through Cochise County daily?

[ASA Vet]

he wants another county vehicle after he got caught smoking post in his last one

What kind of post was it, hickory, cedar, pine?

[millefleur]

To: All
Unbelievable! Look at everyone "swing into action" When LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS show up! They are positivly about to wet their collective pants in a fever pitch rush to "be prepaired for anything."
I wonder why all this effort could not be directed

AGAINST THE FREAKING ILLEGALS ? ? ?
Just look at what they can do when "motivated."

to set aside $100,000 to cover possible expenses

Can't find money to stop illegals, but CAN find money to stop American Citizens

Representatives of the Sheriffs, Planning and Zoning, Health, Highways and Floodplain, and Facilities departments

Can't work together to stop illegals, but CAN work together to stop American Citizens

Sheriff's Department will be the lead agency for the county and has been coordinating its planning with federal, state and local agencies

Can't work together to stop illegals, but CAN work together to stop American Citizens

Senior members of all affected departments will be available to immediately deal with whatever may come up, Klein said.

Can't work together to stop illegals, but CAN work together to stop American Citizens

Planning and Zoning, Environmental Health and Highways, is 432-9200. The evening number is 559-3601.

Can't be available evenings to stop illegals, but CAN be available to stop American Citizens

Extra trash receptacles will be in place at the demonstration sites,

But can't be used to clean up trash from the ILLEGAL BORDER JUMPERS

"Enhanced" zoning inspections are planned to ensure compliance with county regulations, particularly in the corridor between Bisbee and Coronado Monument.

Can't "enhance" to stop illegals, but CAN "enhance" to stop American Citizens

No large-scale camping or gatherings will be allowed on private property

Can't prevent large-scale camping to stop illegals, but CAN prevent such camping to stop American Citizens

"If a violation of 'an event of public interest' or other zoning violation occurs on private property, such as a gathering, we will notify the owner

Can't work with property owners to stop illegals, but CAN work with property owners to stop American Citizens

any activity reaches the level of creating a health hazard, the environmental health director, in consultation with the sheriff and county administrator, shall seek an injunction

Can't stop REAL health hazards from illegals, but CAN declaire non-existant "health hazards" to stop American Citizens

Violators will be cited and released but extra jail facilities are lined up in case of resistance.

Can't find jail space to lock up illegals, but CAN find jail space to lock up American Citizens

additional funding is necessary, the board will convene an emergency meeting to authorize additional amounts

Can't find funds to stop illegals, but CAN find funds to stop American Citizens

Newman suggested that an ordinance be drafted to cover similar events in the future.

Can't work together to stop illegals, but CAN work together to stop American Citizens

Rothrock assured Newman that the Sheriff's Department was prepared to enforce all applicable laws.

Can't enforce applicable laws to stop illegals, but CAN enforce "applicable" laws to stop American Citizens

"We're going to enforce all laws, rules and regulations," Klein promised.


EXCEPT FOR THE DAMN ILLEGALS


58 posted on 03/29/2005 11:24:09 PM EST by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)

BUMP!!! it's worth seeing your post again.

[Don Corleone]

He was concerned about the possibility of hate crimes. Rothrock assured Newman that the Sheriff's Department was prepared to enforce all applicable laws.

Including the ones against illegal entery and tresspass?

[One Proud Son]

If by "hate crimes," he means we hate illegal immigration, well he's right.

This just goes to show how pansy our government has become. The same kind of thing happened back in the 1880s, but the Earps took care of that terrorist Mexican gang.

[One Proud Son]

If by "hate crimes," he means we hate illegal immigration, well he's right.

This just goes to show how pansy our government has become. The same kind of thing happened back in the 1880s, but the Earps took care of that terrorist Mexican gang.

I'm just being amusing.

[McGavin999]

Let them pass the law, and then use it against them. If they won't pick up the illegals for illegal entry, you can demand they arrest them for gathering on private property and creating a health hazard.

[hsmomx3]

I was just listening to the news on KFYI-Phoenix and they just said that the AZ Governor is NOT HAPPY that 500 agents will be sent to protect the border.

Anyone else hear this?

[azsportsterman]

I wrote to Pat Call about this last night. My letter and his response follows.

I just read the county’s position on the Minutemen.

No large-scale camping or gatherings will be allowed on private property or any activity that creates a "substantial nuisance," such as traffic, garbage, raw sewage or gunfire

Since when is this county more concerned with private citizens allowing people to camp on their property than it is with protecting those same property owners from illegal activity? You don’t seem to be concerned about the large gatherings of illegal aliens on private property each night. When are you planning on expending the same amount of effort to stop the illegals, or is that too tough a job for this county?

The supervisors apparently feel it is okay for one of your own to break county law with no repercussions (Newman smoking pot in my county owned vehicle), but county citizens legally using their property needs special treatment?

The supervisors seem to have forgotten about the LEGAL county residents that have been attacked in their homes and yards; where is the concern (other than useless lip-service) when that happens? Shouldn’t the county be doing something to PREVENT this from happening?

The supervisors are apparently members of the group that believes the illegals are just poor people looking for work. Do you really believe the members of MS-13 are in that group? Or do you think MS-13 all crossed into this country legally?

The Minutemen plan on exercising constitutionally protected legal activities, yet you as county supervisors, especially Newman, want to do everything possible to hinder and even stop these brave souls from exercising their rights as law-abiding American citizens.

The Minutemen have already forced something that the county was unable or unwilling to work for; the federal government has announced that another 500 agents will be assigned to this sector. That is a real, tangible result.

Perhaps you should all review your oath of office. In case you have forgotten, the supervisor’s job is to work for the people of Cochise County, NOT the illegal aliens that are flooding across our border with Mexico. Stopping the illegal border crossing activity is the most important issue to the people that live and pay taxes here. Rest assured, we of this county are paying attention to your actions.

His response:

Thank you for taking the time to contact me with your concerns.

Unfortunately, I do not control what the SV Herald reporter, Michael Sullivan, chooses to highlight in his articles. Many of the opinions that you stated were discussed in the work session – but only Mr. Newman’s opinions were reported. This reporter has shown a significant bias towards Mr. Newman and his philosophies over the last nine months as evidenced by the slant of his stories and the amount of copy that he devotes to Mr. Newman. If you will re-read the article, you will note that Mr. Newman was the only one referred to and only his concerns and opinions were reported – there were two other Supervisors in attendance and participating.

As an example, the reporter was fully aware that three weeks ago I was in Washington lobbying congress to support legislation that would fund more BP agents in our sector. I was there with the US/Mexico Border Counties Coalition. This is a coalition of all 24 border counties from Texas to California. I serve as President of the organization this year. The SV Herald reporter was aware of this fact and chose not to report it.

In any case, I don’t disagree with your sentiments. Unfortunately, you wouldn’t know that by reading the local paper.

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After reading Call's response, maybe the county government isn't totally lost. Our problem seems to be with Newman and the Herald. I wrote back to Call and thanked him for his efforts. I also told him I will voice my displeasure with the one-sidedness of the Herald article. However, I doubt they will pay any attention to my complaint; I cancelled my subscription with that paper after they showed the same type of bias in a previous article.

[HiJinx]

Ping to Post #72.

As I suspected, the press is slanted...no surprise there, though.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Santa Ana, California

Uh huh.

[junta]

great question bump

[Carry_Okie]

"If any activity reaches the level of creating a health hazard, the environmental health director, in consultation with the sheriff and county administrator, shall seek an injunction to abate the hazard and cease the activity," Klein wrote.

What a crock from an obvious pack of cowards. The Minutemen will reduce the illegals trashing the place. They will spend money on food and lodging. This project is likely to be of net economic benefit to Cochise County and the Supervisors should know it.

[spodefly]

Nice one.

BUMP

[HiJinx]

There is Federal funding for a conservation project to clean it up, and some AmeriCorps volunteers have done some very minor cleanups.

The bulk of the cleanup is done by private property owners at their own expense, or is done by local conservation groups such as The Friends of the San Pedro. (The San Pedro is one of the last free-flowing rivers in this part of the country and there is a National Conservation Area around it here in Cochise County.)

[Travis McGee]

Are you un-banned, SandRat?

U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

[spodefly]

The level of dissection we have to perform on any given story from a "reporter" is practically impossible. They are trained masters at deception, misdirection, and subterfuge. They should be referred to as propagandists instead of journalists.

Anything we read in any MSM publication has to be examined word by word to trace their errors and lies. The we have to move on to their omissions, as appears to be the case here. Often, what they don't tell you is more important than what they did tell you.