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Follow the Constitution Gov. Bush: Grant Clemency to Terri Schiavo
Empire Journal | March 28, 2005 | Anon

Posted on 03/28/2005 1:12:25 PM PST by TBP

Since I'm only allowed to post a link, here it is.

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0328051_follow_the_constitution.htm

This is a really good article on one of Jeb's reamining options to help Terri, which he refuses to take.

The article urges him to launch an immedite criminal investigation into the whole case, then take her into custody as part of the investigation, then grant her clemency, thus putting her out of reach.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; jeb; jebbush; jebwasheshishands; pontiuspilate; saveterri; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; zork
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1 posted on 03/28/2005 1:12:30 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP
then grant her clemency,

How can you grant her clemency when she isn't a target of the investigation of any wrongdoing?

2 posted on 03/28/2005 1:14:23 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: TBP

How many times do we have to see these silly arguments trotted out?

Look, at this point, he's just going to have to violate a court order, send in the goons, and seize the woman. Or not. We know what he chose.


3 posted on 03/28/2005 1:16:51 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969
Look, at this point, he's just going to have to violate a court order, send in the goons, and seize the woman.

Yep, Bill Clinton has his bogus search warrant to justify his invasion. Do we really want Jeb or George Bush to follow in Bill Clinton's footsteps regarding the abuse of executive power?

4 posted on 03/28/2005 1:19:04 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: mcg1969
Look, at this point, he's just going to have to violate a court order, send in the goons, and seize the woman. Or not. We know what he chose.

I hope he doesn't have plans for the presidency. He can't even protect one innocent woman, let alone a whole country.

5 posted on 03/28/2005 1:19:42 PM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: dirtboy

Well, yeah. If the government has the power to disregard the law, then any time something happenes that we don't like, they can show up with armed men and make it better. I trust the government to never, ever abuse this power. You do too, right?


6 posted on 03/28/2005 1:21:42 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Try new Free Republic Lite! - Lite on reason, but with 1000% more hyperbole!)
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To: dirtboy
Yep, Bill Clinton has his bogus search warrant to justify his invasion. Do we really want Jeb or George Bush to follow in Bill Clinton's footsteps regarding the abuse of executive power?

Clinton violated a court order because of his support for Fidel Castro and communism.
Bush should do the same on the grounds that Terri's right to representatrion and right to life have been violated.
Which one do you think sounds Constitutional?

7 posted on 03/28/2005 1:23:27 PM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Steel Wolf
I trust the government to never, ever abuse this power. You do too, right?

Yep. I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do.

8 posted on 03/28/2005 1:24:13 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Steel Wolf

OUTSTANDING tagline.


9 posted on 03/28/2005 1:24:52 PM PST by Constitution Day ("You guys need a pallet of paper bags to breathe into, I swear.")
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To: Constitution Day

I kind of like yours.


10 posted on 03/28/2005 1:25:48 PM PST by Howlin (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: TBP

How many times must this stupid recommendation be reposted? You can't grant clemency or a pardon to someone not accused/convicted of a crime...


11 posted on 03/28/2005 1:26:11 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: TBP

I just dont understand why everybody is thinking its alright for the gov or president to take such a step.

As much as I hate the situation so many moral and legal bounds are being torn on this case.

On the one hand we are watching a cruel and unusual punishment being performed on an innocent women. The courts yes have clearly overstepped themselves on this one.

On the other end would be to have the executive branch overstep its reach. Both cases are scary as far as federalism and the reach of gov't goes.

I don't want the government, be it courts or legislative or executive tell me or my family how we are to deal with a loved one who is in that situation.

And I am very sad to say after much mulling and tearing over this issue. I would have preferred Dr Kevorkian over this situation anyday. That although not a morally tasteful or even good choice outweighs death by starvation and dehydration, no matter what drugs are given.

Michael should have simply divorced her and given custodial and legal rights back to her family years ago.


12 posted on 03/28/2005 1:27:14 PM PST by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany)
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To: NittanyLion

Now, now, don't try to insert the facts into this discussion.


13 posted on 03/28/2005 1:27:56 PM PST by Howlin (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Howlin; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I got it here. ;^)
14 posted on 03/28/2005 1:28:46 PM PST by Constitution Day ("You guys need a pallet of paper bags to breathe into, I swear.")
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To: TBP

If it were that simple, Governor Bush would have already tried it rather than risk losing the support of pro-life voters.


15 posted on 03/28/2005 1:29:17 PM PST by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: Howlin
Not surprisingly, Larry Klayman is advancing this very same argument.

Thus proving that Larry Klayman has become even dumber over the years.

16 posted on 03/28/2005 1:29:56 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: TBP
If our side gets angry at those who really went out of their way to help Terri, then fat chance we will ever get help with anything ever again. I hope everyone remembers that.

Anyway, I wish Jeb would do anything to help her. I think he would if he thought it was legal. Regardless, he has been amazing through all of this and I thank him from the bottom of my heart no matter what else happens.

17 posted on 03/28/2005 1:30:37 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Constitution Day

Thief!

But I have seen your coveting other people's taglines this very day, have I not?


18 posted on 03/28/2005 1:30:37 PM PST by Howlin (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Howlin; All
Be careful, anyone who doesn't think President Bush or Governor Bush should violate the rule of law will sooner or later be accused of supporting the "Culture of Death".
19 posted on 03/28/2005 1:31:49 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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To: NittanyLion
He hasn't learn a thing:


20 posted on 03/28/2005 1:32:31 PM PST by Howlin (I'm in the WPPFF)
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