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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

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To: EternalVigilance

Eternal Vigilance. Great to see you've got it right. What a battle that rages on right here!


941 posted on 03/25/2005 11:25:40 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Texas Deb
It's not always about winning. Sometimes it's about minimizing the loss. As you stated, dammed if he does, dammed if he doesn't. The only way he escapes with minimal loss from both factions of his "base" (constitutionalists and religious right) is to put himself into a position where neither side can lay total blame on him. Telegraphing his move HOURS ahead of time was foolish, if in fact his intentions were to save her. However what it did accomplish is a situation where Jeb sends the agents in and quickly pulls them off. The Constitutionalists are happy because Jeb avoids a "shootout" (yeah right) and thinks the better of throwing the state into a civil war (yeah right again). Many middle of the road republicans will give Jeb an "atta boy, you did what you could" as we are already starting to see. As for his political career I really think it's moot. I never saw Jeb as a real contender for the presidency, and one thing is for sure now... he will NEVER have the support that his brother had from the religious right in 2004. Without that support it will be hard for any Republican to get in with the fanaticism, fraud, and cash that will be pouring in from the left in the coming years, but damn near impossible if your last name is Bush.
942 posted on 03/25/2005 11:25:49 PM PST by NImerc
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To: DoughtyOne

you really don't need to school me on WWII......I studied it long and hard in ROTC......and I don't condone evil as I see it......so, let me just ask.....are you the judge here of what is evil and what is legal jurisprudence?...if so, pls by all means, tell the Pres, Jeb Bush, and the rest of them.....I stand quilty as charged as a NON-comprehender but they must be as well........I feel much better in their company than the holier than thou crowd here sometimes...see and I did that all without comparison or democratic ideology....see, I guess you just really don't know my form at all.......since you make judgments on limited or what we call small sample population of info


943 posted on 03/25/2005 11:27:29 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Actually, I've been treated like I showed up at my childhood church with a whore on one arm, a bottle of Wild Turkey under the other, smoking a cigarette, and asking "Who's up for a game of Poker?"

Aw c'mon...I haven't been mean to you have I? ;-)
944 posted on 03/25/2005 11:27:31 PM PST by politicket
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To: NorCalRepub

I'm glad I've met a couple of you folks tonight... I was actually starting to wonder if I was going to have vote Libertarian next time around.


945 posted on 03/25/2005 11:27:48 PM PST by hleewilder
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To: politicket
Zechariah 8:16 These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbor;

execute the judgment of truth and PEACE in your gates:

17 And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.'"

This still applies to this day.

The remnant is of the choosing of the Heavenly Father. Christians are to follow the standard that Christ set, not what some men see as an opening to make a name for themselves.

We are given the example of Daniel, he was tossed in the lion's den and yet not a hair of his head was touched, you don't think the Heavenly Father cannot control beasts.
946 posted on 03/25/2005 11:28:31 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: RightMike
I hope this shows that Jeb was serious. He only backed off to avert a state of FL civil war.

I think this entire story reeks of B.S.

C.Y.A., Bush-style.

947 posted on 03/25/2005 11:28:42 PM PST by montag813
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To: Chad Fairbanks
YOU: He doesn't make law, and he doesn't get to pick and choose what laws he executes. Ergo, his hands are tied.

Thomas Jefferson: "The opinion which gives to the Judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what are not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch."

Thomas Jefferson: "The care of human life and happiness, not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government."

The fundamental law of the United States is the Constitution. The President has the sacred duty to uphold the Fifth Amendment, which he swore a sacred oath to uphold.

Likewise, Jeb Bush swore to uphold the constitution of the State of Florida.

I challenge you, if you have the courage, to post Section Two of the latter document here now, and explain to us all why Governor Bush's primary duty is not to protect the life of the innocent citizens of his State.

948 posted on 03/25/2005 11:28:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: Libertina

They seem to have quite the corrupt machine operating there.


949 posted on 03/25/2005 11:29:23 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

That weak attempt was it, it's now officially over.


950 posted on 03/25/2005 11:29:34 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Anybody remember the movie "Tank"?


951 posted on 03/25/2005 11:30:22 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well, for what it's worth: http://www.novaemilitiae.squarespace.com/blogoslovi-nevskis-periodic-mu/2005/3/18/editorial-statement-on-terri-schindler-schiavo-revised-325.html


952 posted on 03/25/2005 11:30:31 PM PST by Nevski
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To: mommadooo3
"State agents acting under state laws are stopped by LOCAL police who are enforcing a COUNTY judge's edict."

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953 posted on 03/25/2005 11:32:00 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: NorCalRepub
this is a Christian nation and Bush is a Christian, but he is NOT a Christian leader......this is not a theocracy....we are battling one right now.....I'm not disputing the bible either but US laws are OUR laws and must be obeyed......

We'll try this one more time. ;-)

Bush is a self-professed Christian, therefore he is a Christian leader.

You are correct...we do not live in a theocracy. George Bush is not the pope.

We are not battling a single theocracy in Iraq (maybe multiple - but not single). There are sects over there that despise each other.

Laws should be obeyed as long as they do not directly oppose God's law.
954 posted on 03/25/2005 11:32:42 PM PST by politicket
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To: ARCADIA

haha.....you really are a nut.....extremeist.....hell, yesteday I was called a moderate.....which is probably more close to the truth......extremism does not sit well with those of us that are tolerant, flexible and willing to discuss as opposed to being preached to


955 posted on 03/25/2005 11:32:49 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: LisaMalia

Frankly, I think evidence should be compiled of the collusion and fraud in that county using the hospice to wrongfully bill the feds. Then arrest the good ol boys: Greer, Shiavo, and Felos & Rice. Seize and search the hospice. This requires arrest and search warrants. Seems justified to me. Wonder when the media will start to follow the money?


956 posted on 03/25/2005 11:33:03 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Don't presume to lecture me until you get out of college and spend a couple years in the world, kid.


957 posted on 03/25/2005 11:33:10 PM PST by tomkat
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Constructive suggestions? Like...charging Terri Schiavo with an unsolved murder that occurred during the time she was a minor, so that she would be kept alive? Declaring her an enemy combatant? Making her an Israeli citizen?

How about declaring the Pinellas County police/executive to be enemy combatants for attempting to secede from the state?
958 posted on 03/25/2005 11:33:22 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: RightMike
He only backed off to avert a state of FL civil war.

Pure bull.

There is not one chance in a billion that the Pinellas Park Police, or the Pinellas County Sheriff's Department, will lift a single finger when the State Police roll up.

Just another lie created to fool the naive.

959 posted on 03/25/2005 11:34:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: northernlightsII

well you just might be right there.....funny that I was raised by about the most Christian people on earth and take it to heart, but somehow I find the extremist views and judgement a bit much for my taste...


960 posted on 03/25/2005 11:34:34 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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