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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

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To: politicket

I suppose it depends. Randall Terry wants a Theocracy - is that what YOU want? Do you want a Theocracy, based soley on what Randall Terry believes? What ahbout people who may not hold his specific beliefs? What about Catholics? What about the Jews? What about the Native American Church? What about Athiests? Should they also be subjected to what Randall Terry wants? He doesn't want pluralism, remember?


541 posted on 03/25/2005 9:42:14 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

She suffered cardiac arrest, not a heart attacks.

The entire history is here, the Wolfson report which is generally considered the most comprehensive history of the entire matter. He was one of her four guardian ad litems and was trusted by both parties.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1370047/posts?page=1264#1264


542 posted on 03/25/2005 9:42:22 PM PST by Peach
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To: DoughtyOne
"There's a whole lot of 'obvious' being forgotten this night."

You've got that right.

543 posted on 03/25/2005 9:42:30 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: northernlightsII

It was Pinellas County police that is why. They are protecting MS and covering up.


544 posted on 03/25/2005 9:42:36 PM PST by samantha (relax, and cheer up the adults are in charge)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Calling out the National Guard to go get her is a stupid idea. It raises the tension levels waaaaay too high, and the potential for the loss of life, and other effects is just too great... Then there are the political ramifications for our nation... shudder...

Are you agreeing then that Jeb does have the authority, if he had the political will to do so?
545 posted on 03/25/2005 9:42:59 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: Sender
That would be quite a scene, if Jeb himself walked in with a cup of ice chips. What to do, what to do?

If he did, he would be elected president.
546 posted on 03/25/2005 9:43:30 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Jeb call out the National Guard? I don't think so. That's Greers job. Maybe sometimes, like during a hurricane or something, Greer lets Jeb act like he's in charge.

But the cat's out of the bag, now. The entire world now knows that Jeb has no power.


547 posted on 03/25/2005 9:43:55 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: MTOrlando

I don't think he has the legal power to do so, no.


548 posted on 03/25/2005 9:43:56 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: NorCalRepub
Alert--I've just come up with the line that will get me flamed by everyone on both sides of this discussion! And best of all, I mean it! Here goes, flame protection field at maximum:

George W Bush handled this PERFECTLY.

Ahhh, I've been getting that pasty skin these winter months, here comes the tan! Or the 3rd degree burn...

549 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:20 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic against abortion and "assisted suicide" based on hearsay)
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To: NorCalRepub
"there was no basis in the law for the state agents to take over without court order........"

Actually, there is, if DCF in Florida works anything like it does in Arkansas.

550 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:35 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: jpsb
This issue is going to finish both Bushes, the perception is out there and with good reason that the Bush brothers are just using Terry to play politics.

Dubya's not running for anything again, but Jeb is clearly finished. The Governor of Florida has bowed down before his masters, the judges, like a harmless puppy dog who only wonders what he must do next to keep them from hitting him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.

551 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:38 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: Jrabbit

If you wanna keep believing that, fine, but you make yourself look foolish.


552 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:49 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: DoughtyOne

You're welcome.


553 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:56 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: nunya bidness

I think it was when the FDLE called as a courtesy to let the local hicks know they were comming.

I think no matter what we can act like clitonistas. We have to be better.

Has Greer rejected teh Attorney's observation of "I want to live yet?"


554 posted on 03/25/2005 9:45:06 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Darkwolf377

ROTFLMAO


555 posted on 03/25/2005 9:45:12 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: JonDavid
I would have pictured what Ronald Reagan would have done. He would have sent in Federal Marshals, taken custody of Terri, arrested the probate Swamp judge & ordered the Justice department to start an investigation of all the Nazis involved.

He would not have. Reagan, who I may fault for some expansion of the national government and not following through on a promise to get rid of the Dept of Education, respected the ideal of federalism. I believe he would have stated his consternation over the issue, but he would not have stepped into what is clearly a state issue.

Nazis? What Nazis are you speaking of? Is there someone in Florida that is a member of the National Socialist party in Florida?

556 posted on 03/25/2005 9:45:26 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Darkwolf377

If I were GWB, at the very least, the day after Terri passed on I would press the nuclear button on judicial nominations. The timing couldn't be more perfect.


557 posted on 03/25/2005 9:45:28 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: jpsb

...because he won't break the law?


558 posted on 03/25/2005 9:45:30 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: northernlightsII

What if the facts were the same except for one thing: A husband, estranged from his wife, but for religious reasons or whatever wants to keep her alive and her parents want to remove the feeding tube?

Any law like that is going to raise even more questions, more litigation, and will be revisited endlessly in the legislature as each unique situation arises. More government intrusion into our lives, not less.


559 posted on 03/25/2005 9:45:42 PM PST by balch3
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To: sibb1213

Don't take it personally.The statement. Once the South always the South was directed not at the murder part of the sentence but at the fact that officers of the law in the south have had a history of creating constitutional upevil as in '60's Alabama.
No offense intended to the ctizens as they are probably the ones standing vigil at the Hospice and calling JB etc.


560 posted on 03/25/2005 9:46:12 PM PST by northernlightsII
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