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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: Williams
"...something is out of wack legally and morally..."

Thank you for understanding my point.
501 posted on 03/25/2005 9:34:04 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: McGavin999

Well there is a statute that gives DCF the power to take custody of an abused adult. BUT, I read on another thread that DCF then has to petition the court with 24 hours to retain custody. I'm not sure which court the poster was referring to, but with all the problems Jeb is having with the courts it looks like he may not have been able to legally retain custody of Terri. I agree with the guy on another thread who said..."Florida is a legal hellhole."


502 posted on 03/25/2005 9:34:09 PM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: samantha

you're whole post is speculation and rampant emotion.....now we have a police coverup......pls call FOX and CNN since you are way ahead of them......


503 posted on 03/25/2005 9:34:17 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: DoughtyOne; Gondring
With all due respect, her husband is the only person who 'supposedly' heard her say anthing of the kind your are taking as gospel. Why do you believe him over all her other family members, who say she would NEVER ask to be killed? I'm listening...

Not true, D1. Michael Schiavo's brother, and his brother's wife, both claim to have heard her say she would not want to be kept alive under artificial means.

I'm not saying I necessarily believe them (I find the sudden memory of this trio too convenient for my own comfort), but I'm saying Michael Schiavo was not the only one who claims to have heard Terri say that.

Apparently, that has been made a "finding of fact" in the case, which is nearly impossible to get changed, as I understand it.

504 posted on 03/25/2005 9:34:55 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: sweetliberty

Powerful!


505 posted on 03/25/2005 9:34:59 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: northernlightsII

What in the world does that mean--once the South, always the South. Stupid statement. This has nothing to do with South or North. We in the South value life as much as any other part of the country.


506 posted on 03/25/2005 9:35:01 PM PST by sibb1213
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I agree - it will all end up right back in the courts.

And I can't believe anyone could think the courts would rule in Jeb's, or Terri's, favor on anything at this point. They have thrown a temper tantrum this week because the Congress and the President dared to ask them to review the facts of the case - and in the end, they didn't. They're intoxicated with power, and so what if an innocent woman dies, as long as they save face - they're circling the wagons defending Greer, and they have their precious egos to protect.

As Terri's father said, the courts are flexing their muscles and are intent on killing Terri. They've totally ignored new evidence in this case and have ruled in every instance against the Shindler's. Does anyone really think they would EVER rule in Terri's favor on anything if Jeb Bush stormed the hospice and took her out? We're beyond the point where facts matter - it's all about power and ego now, and the courts will NEVER side for Terri.


507 posted on 03/25/2005 9:35:13 PM PST by Texas Deb
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To: Nik Naym

Yes, he can, but what does that have to do with the subject of this thread?


508 posted on 03/25/2005 9:35:22 PM PST by lolhelp
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To: politicket
"Our goal is a Christian nation. ... We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism. ... Theocracy means God rules. I've got a hot flash. God rules."

- Randall Terry, August 16, 1993

509 posted on 03/25/2005 9:35:37 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: politicket

"Randall Terry is operating on pure emotion now."
"Randall Terry should not even be involved in this whole situation."

Yes, that was what I meant really. He's becoming more and more unglued. Not that I disagree with him, but he's heading toward unhinged. Of course I don't KNOW him so that's the end of it for me.


510 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:09 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: Antoninus
Jeb Bush should just resign now. Judge Greer is governor of Florida.

Yep.

511 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:10 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: Windcatcher

These local cops are city employees. The police guarding the hospice are employed by the city of Pinellas Park. I've noticed a couple Sheriff's, they are employed by the county.

Each municipality in Pinellas has it's own police force. The Sheriffs oversee unincorporated areas, and assist local police forces.


512 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:15 PM PST by dawn53
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To: billbears

About her remains: I'm curious how the law will be handled when it happens, seeing how Michael Schiavo has already requested before Judge Greer, that she be cremated after her death. There's been so many charges tossed around, I can't see this sitting well with the family, and others...


513 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:15 PM PST by LRS
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To: ModernDayCato

My analogy is that we do not want governors with the power to reverse any court decision with which they disagree. Even the president of the U.S. lacks that authority, unless Congress grants it by virtue of their control over the federal courts' jurisdiction. In this case, the Florida legislature failed to pass a law to give Jeb additional authority.


514 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:29 PM PST by Williams
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Thank you. I had not heard that. I appreciate the correction.


515 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Any man who actually loved a woman (EVER), would respect her parents far more than this slithering bastard does. He clearly dispises them and that should tell anyone they need to know where his heart truly resides."

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Sometimes it gets lost in the details.

516 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:50 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: ARCADIA

I see........so of course you are suggesting anarchy or something....if we don't like the fact that every court has ruled against them or refused to hear the case then we should just ignore the jucicial system which makes thousands of rulings a day and........well, just have at it???......now that also in your words does not sound "lawful or legitimate"......


517 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:54 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Antoninus

Some are arguing that they did not quite have the guts to put what was needed in this legislation.
David Boies,legal counsel (Bush-Gore),and another big wig tonight on Hannity that the ones that really dropped the ball were FL,state legislators.
All they had to do was pass a law that said a husband which is estranged from his wife cannot act as legal guardian in a court proceding agains the wishes of the wife's direct relatives.
Sounds good to me.
Question where were the legal experts last week when Fl.legislature was still sitting and something could have been done?
My bet, every lawyer worth his salt never thought for a moment that the federal judges woould disregard Congress'law.....
Long post to say we still have Judges that don't want to listen to Legislative branch.


518 posted on 03/25/2005 9:37:01 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: lolhelp
Look, if you check out the bottom of each post, you will see a place that you can click to link back to the post that is being replied to. Fer cryin' out loud, do I have to repost everything?
519 posted on 03/25/2005 9:37:07 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: bjs1779

Jeb Bush should send a SWAT team in, dressed bulletproof from head to toe and carrying the nastiest machine guns in the whole state of Florida!


520 posted on 03/25/2005 9:37:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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