Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.
Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.
For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''
In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.
''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.
''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''
The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.
(Excerpt) Read more at miami.com ...
"The only parallel I can think of this is where Andrew Jackson defied the Supreme Court to send all the Indians to Oklahoma. "
This, and other cases like Waco or the internment of the Japanese during WWII are hardly great shining moments in the (ab)use of executive power.
Power corrupts. Those who advocate any means to achieve the ends of saving Terri's life will find those means later used, by our enemies, for ill effect.
"Ronald Reagan fired the striking air traffic controllers & showed he had the stones to be a great leader. "
That was within his legal authority.
My God - listen to the two women on Fox tonight (added to more who have already submitted affidavits and appeared on TV. What else does a man of courage need to act?
I agree. There should be enough to put a halt to this."
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Why didnt any Judge act on this, then?
"The court are no longer lawful or legitimate. They have proven themselves to mere a bunch of goons wearing black robes."
The solution to that is to fire them - through impeachment and through defeating them in elections.
"State constitution ... provides a guarantee of the right to life of all Floridians."
So, what are you doing to get those many Florida Judges who defied those guarantees fired?
"The judiciary is convinced that they're the only power that counts, and apparently they've got the dutiful sheeple brainwashed into believing it. If we don't take these dictators down now, next time, instead of starving one woman to death, they may hand down a more efficient and cost effective way of disposing of lots of inconvenient people "helping" lots of people die at one time, and they will pat themselves on the back over what a wonderful thing they're doing."
Well said. The third branch of Government has run amok, on this and many other cases. Their arrogance and blindness is appalling.
"Might it be legal in the long run? No."
That's the whole point!! If it is an illegal act, you have either (a) a constitutional crisis, or (b) final disposition that kills Terri anyway.
Taking physical custody at this point does nothing unless you can ALSO legally overturn the Judge Greer ruling that is effectively a death sentence. That's why Congress passed the law the way they did, to get a 'de novo' Federal review. But the Federal Judges arrogantly snubbed the law in this case, pretending that the issues had been reviewed.
"The court did not order anyone's death. If Mrs. Schiavo were to suddenly become concious and be able to grab a burger, the court is not ordering she be bludgeoned or have it ripped away."
Actually, what I understand is that the Judge has ordered that Terri NOT be fed at all... putting ice chips in her mouth or spooning her Jello would violate his order.
"But the basic truth you will not admit to is that she could never ask for a burger. Her brain is gone, except for some lower functions."
Not true. She is brain-damaged, not even close to brain-dead. ... Please get your info from better sources than Schiavo and his pro-death lawyer.
http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co.html
http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/03/former_nurse_re_1.php
http://www.spiritdaily.com/schiavoalert.htm
" You spew out words to obscure the truth, not illuminate it." ... Look in the mirror, pal.
"In fact, many people would want their spouses to act like Mr. Schiavo did."
What, take the settlement money and buy a new gold Acura car the next day, ignore her rehab needs once the money was in the bank, get a new common-law wife and kids, and years later 'remember' that she wanted her plug pulled despite being a cognizant and aware, yet disabled, human being? She'd want him spending what was left of the money meant for her medical care on pro-death lawyers advocating to get her killed????
"That's why mainstream America is so against the attempted theft of Mrs. Schiavo's rights."
You nor I have no idea what Terri really wants right now, but one thing is clear - killing her this way is a violation of her rights.
The controversy comes about because certain facts are not what they seem and are in dispute. THIS IS NOT A "RIGHT TO DIE" CASE. This is a euthanasia case that is (mis)represented by Felos (Schiavo's lawyer and "Hemlock society" leader) as a right-to-die case; a disabled women is being killed because she cant speak on her behalf, and we are taking the word of her husband that she wants to be killed. Some people don't believe her husband has her true interests at heart. I'm one of them.
"What more can we do?"
The vote in the State Senate that would have saved Terri was 18 to 21 against.
Who are the infamous 21???
What more you can do is make those 21 see the end of their political careers quickly.
"Mrs. Schiavo's side is not the one you stated. That's the Schindler's position. What proof do you have that she's on that side? "
What proof do you have otherwise?
"The courts and GALs have repeatedly examined this and concluded that Mrs. Schiavo and Mr. Schiavo's side is the same. "
Based on what evidence?
We already know the Judge Greer is a corrupt Judge who takes payoffs from lawyers handling estates to be hush-hush about guardianships. What evidence did he use to make his suspect ruling?
And how does the Trudy Capone affadivit comport with that?
There's a self-identified "conservative lawyer" on another thread trying to tell people that Jeb Bush has exhausted his legal powers of intervention.
People just don't want to accept it.
It's useless. The pitchforks and torches are out for Jeb, and nobody is going to convince them to stand down. They're even telling conservative lawyers on FR that they know Florida law better, at this point.
It's a waste of breath trying to reason with them. I'm done trying.
They're nuts.
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