Posted on 03/25/2005 4:32:35 PM PST by Crackingham
"'Starvation' is a Loaded Term" I'll bet they don't. As a NRA life member I think they should. When you are recieving fire the only thing you can do is return it. Asking for five minutes to call the police is not an option.
Then there will be folks like me. Not a combat vet, but qualified expert on every weapon in the infantry AND armor inventory. Former LEO and a current NRA Certified Firearms Instructor. IDPA Safety Officer and competitor.
I teach high school deep in the inner city and I've never had any problems. OTOH, I usually hook up with any ex-military at the schools where I've taught over the last 16 years and we've made loose plans on how to handle emergencies like this. They almost never include firearms. Against the law for us to have 'em so we don't. If I could....I would, but it would be better if the kids did not know who was carrying or had access to the guns because there are some fairly violent gangs that would target a school or a teacher JUST to get hold of the gun and just to say they did it and thus raise their status in gangbanger land.
I used to keep a target I used to zero a 45 and a 9mm in my desk at school. multiple "A" ZONE hits. No flyers. VERY tight groups. Marked as to which are 9mm and which are 45. The kids loved it.
I fully agree. But at my school there is just one possibility (besides JROTC) as to whom the teacher would be and that'd be yours truly. I would carry concealed in a Level IIIA retention holster. That's be my only hope and I'd have to have all GLASER or MagSafe loads. But otherwise, it'd be no problem.
AP's can't find their A$$E$ with both hands! Assistant Principals are former teachers with a yen to RULE and they are for the most part (I know quite a few GOOD ones, doesn't mean I'd trust 'em with a GUN) brown nosing politicians who always say NO and rarely say YES because they don't want to commit the career killer mistake.
Darned right. And while you're at it, legalize firearms for public education students, too.
Gee, Colombine had those. Real effective, huh?
LOL!!
I have already told you an armed teacher stopped one massacre. The massacre had started and the teacher retrieved his 1911 from his car and stopped the student. In the other case, the NRA member was a student and he jumped the shooter while he was reloading. Arming teachers is a better idea than a uniformed security guard.
On the contrary it's already being done in the more remote school districts in Texas and is a big success. That law was passed a few years ago in Texas. Funny how the MSM hasn't covered it, huh?
In fact this is a pretty GOOD idea. Know why? Forget the liberal teachers infesting the system for the last forty years. There is a teacher shortage nationwide. Know how many districts are filling slots? With retiring military officers. That's a group of folks who can ummmmm take care of business.
Right now, a hatred of guns, which when you think about it, means they aren't going to have the common sense god gave a screwdriver to even know how to use one.
If the school gives them guns, it'll be just a matter of time before one of these idiots screws up and shoots a kid.
I do prefer armed guards in school however.
I still remember one professor almost hitting a student with a pointer because the kid had a different political view and disagreed with him. Sidenote:That professor was also the same professor President Bush had when he went for his MBA.
Interesting, I used to teach, I did not have a permanent room (where I could conceal a quick open safe in a desk drawer) so I would have to carry too. But I also coached and so had to change to gym clothes for those periods. I suspect a locked gun in the coaches locker room might be the best compromise. (I would have to get there from a classroom, wasting time, but maybe moving in the right direction, who is to know?)
Kids in high school are very perceptive, they would spot a concealed carry making the headlines and bringing out every anti gun parent in the school. The process would vary in each institution. Maybe because of how I had to migrate with the students I would not be as good a candidate as say the administrator or counselor.
My thoughts are that any improvement would be an improvement. Even if many schools or whatever could not comply -- enough would that the society at large would have some recourse other than waiting til the perp runs out of ammo.
I still remember when a gang member came onto campus and was confronted by the unarmed security monitor. He was street wise and pulled off a his roper boots and using them as a club he beat the guy black and blue until the authorities pulled him off the guy. I had never seen boots used like this. But if the gang member had a firearm...
I just happened to make that same suggestion in the teachers lounge of my middle school last week. The silence was deafening. One might have thought I had suggested that we eat roaches for lunch. Any idea relating to firearms and their use by teachers, principals, etc. is completely unimaginable to them. Even when teachers express the real fears they have of their own safety. It's truely breathtaking to see such ignorance.
Stupidity is trying the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result every time.
"One catches a heck of a lot more flies with honey than vinegar."
I'm not interested in catching flies---I prefer to kill them.
One Beslan here, and they'll change their mind.. Maybe. They'll probably just want to ban guns, even if the terrorists use smuggled in Chinese AK47's.
Well, then, you prefer to kill everyone who disgarees with your position on firearms. I prefer to transform as many anti-gun-rights people as possible into allies...
You're not going to convert most into allies anymore than you're going to convert any type of liberal.
The only compromise anti-gunners make are for you to give up all your gun rights.
Really? Were prisoners in 1789 America afforded access to firearms? What of the inmates of insane asylums?
A couple of math teachers with handguns won't stop a Beslan. Putting in the proper security procedures might, but communities won't foot the bill for that.
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