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Gandhi Was a Racist? (Socialist idol being cast down?)
Daily Times ^ | 03-25-2005 | Yassif Latif Hamdani

Posted on 03/25/2005 9:24:33 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy

Gandhi’s desire for Indians to be segregated from blacks was so strong that he went to Johannesburg in late August of 1904 to protest the placing of blacks in the Indian section of the city

LAHORE: Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (1870-1948), the man who inspired great leaders like Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King, may have harboured racial sentiments against black people if an article on Sulekha.com is to be believed.

The article quotes a series of letters and petitions from Gandhi, linking the black people of Africa to savages and portraying them as little better than animals. Gandhi writes, “A general belief seems to prevail in the colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than the savages or natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir”.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytimes.com.pk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gandhi; hindus; india; racism; southafrica
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To: Tribune7

I read a great alternative-science-fiction story where the Germans had won WWII and taken over India from the British.

Gahndi did his non-violence bit and got slaughtered along with all his followers.

Basically, the moral was "non-violent civil disobedience only works with a society that cares about such things."

Important lesson the liberal forget when confronted with cultures that worship death (e.g., muslims).


41 posted on 03/25/2005 10:34:55 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: what's up

**I find it strange that you are attacked for posting a negative article about a man who definitely had socialist leanings.
It feels like a bad dream...I am on the Free Republic website, aren't I?**

I don't find it that strange, unfortunately. Gandhi is one of those people whom even conservatives have been systematically trained by the media and the government-run education system to uphold as an example of goodness and purity. Nevermind that he did have his racist moments (and not just when he was a young man) and was a socialist. To his credit, however, he disassociated himself from the hard-core Nazi-supporter types like Bose and vocally opposed them.


42 posted on 03/25/2005 10:40:57 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

This story may be true, but as it comes from a Pakistani newspaper, and I have heard all manner of nonsense from Pakistanis and Indians about each other, I think I will wait to hear it from a less obviously biased source.


43 posted on 03/25/2005 10:42:15 AM PST by wideminded
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To: sukhoi-30mki
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Cordially,

44 posted on 03/25/2005 10:46:47 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Yashcheritsiy
I don't find it that strange, unfortunately. Gandhi is one of those people whom even conservatives have been systematically trained by the media

Yes...I was shocked by the number of people who were almost hero-worshipping Arthur Miller after he died. This even though Miller through his plays was a major force causing the anti-freedom and anti-church philosophies we suffer from today. Amazing. Same dynamic with Gandhi.

No surprise that Gandhi spoke out against the Nazis. All socialists hated the Nazis, Gandhi included.

45 posted on 03/25/2005 10:49:02 AM PST by what's up
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To: MeanWestTexan
Gahndi did his non-violence bit and got slaughtered along with all his followers.

I remember reading a quote in which he admitted as much and actually praised the British. Couldn't find it in a quick search.

Did find a link referring to letters in which Gandhi calls Hitler "my friend". Wonder what Yashcheritsiy would make of that.

46 posted on 03/25/2005 10:49:16 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: popdonnelly

Umm, I doubt it. He's a liberal icon, not a conservative one.


47 posted on 03/25/2005 10:49:43 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: what's up
All socialists hated the Nazis,

The Nazis were socialists.

48 posted on 03/25/2005 10:50:16 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: ChadGore

Come on, Chad. How many FReepers, long time ones, have posted drivel from time to time?


49 posted on 03/25/2005 10:53:07 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Diamond

Hmm,Ive read more gory stuff about Gandhi & the article you referred to has tonnes of debatable stuff,a good chunk of which has been disproven now.Here's my final take-Gandhi was not a superhuman,he made plenty of mistakes,but he still will be remembered for laying the seeds of a secular,democratic India.None of you may have ever known about this,but a good read of Indian history from a neutral angle will tell you that the Brits,the Muslim fundamentalists,The Hindu fundamentalists,the Communists,revolutionaries all hated Gandhi for one reason or the other.The Left "adopted" Gandhi in a big way only recently.


50 posted on 03/25/2005 10:54:50 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: drchandra

I am not sure what you mean. Are you saying we should not criticize Mao as a mass-murderer even though there maybe a billion Chinese people worshipping him everyday?


51 posted on 03/25/2005 10:56:12 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Gandhi favored the partition between India and Pakistan. One of the few things he got right and paid dearly for it.


52 posted on 03/25/2005 10:57:07 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I see nothing wrong with your post. The fact is that most leftist icons are racists and or socialists. Thanks for the info.


53 posted on 03/25/2005 11:01:17 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: econ_grad; Cronos; mindfever; Gengis Khan

Gandhi stood for a united India till the last moment & agreed to partition only when he knew it was unavoidable thanks to Jinnah's willingness to go to any extent to get Pakiland.About getting things right,well atleast India is still secular,united & democratic,but that's not something you are particularly fond of.


54 posted on 03/25/2005 11:01:53 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There would have been no partition without approval from Gandhi. Trust me, India is better off without having Pakistan as a state within it. India is by and large secular, but definitely not united. That is a massive propaganda from the govt.


55 posted on 03/25/2005 11:04:47 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: drchandra

Fine. But certain things are facts without having to reinvent the wheel, like Mao was evil. Right?


58 posted on 03/25/2005 11:16:51 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: drchandra

I am not offended.


60 posted on 03/25/2005 11:22:20 AM PST by USAFJeeper
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