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To: lakey
I don't like the idea of them handcuffing children, but if the kids trespassed - and knew they were trespassing, then the law is the law. The parents are at fault for encouraging them, allowing it.

This is what Operation Rescue used to do all the time in 80's and early 90's in front of abortion clinics. Some of my best friends (male) were in OR and went to jail. I stayed on the picket lines with the other mom's.

This family KNEW what they were doing and knew they would be arrested. I'm sure the kids were treated fine. Frankly, I think they showed real courage. We have to take a stand sometime.

2,671 posted on 03/26/2005 12:24:55 AM PST by valleygal
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To: valleygal
I'm proud of them, as I'm sure they're proud of themselves.

Suzanne Vitadamo, Terri Schiavo's sister, second from right, and her husband Michael Vitadamo, meet with Gabriel Keys, left, and his sister Josie, outside the Woodside Hopsice Thrusday afternoon march 24, 2005 in Pinellas Park, Fla. Gabriel and Josie were arrested on Wednesday trying to bring Terri a cup of water. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara) good

2,679 posted on 03/26/2005 12:33:34 AM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: valleygal

"Frankly, I think they showed real courage. We have to take a stand sometime."

I agree!!!! The parents are teaching their children to bravely stand for Christ in a time when others fear men. And they did it peacefully and bravely I might add.(and when they grow old...they shall not depart from it)


2,680 posted on 03/26/2005 12:35:39 AM PST by SvdByFaith ("Lord, THY will not my will...")
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To: valleygal; Wampus SC; Pepper777; devolve; potlatch; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; ALOHA RONNIE; ...
We have today judicial tyranny. We have as well Roe v. Wade as in the past we had Dred Scott v. Sandford

INTRODUCTION TO THE COURT OPINION ON THE DRED SCOTT CASE

Dred Scott's case holds a unique place in American constitutional history as an example of the Supreme Court trying to impose a judicial solution on a political problem. It called down enormous criticism on the Court and on Chief Justice Roger Brooke Taney; a later chief justice, Charles Evans Hughes, described it as a great "self-inflicted wound."

Scott, born a slave, had been taken by his master, an army surgeon, into the free portion of the Louisiana territory. Upon his master's death, Scott sued for his freedom, on the grounds that since slavery was outlawed in the free territory, he had become a free man there, and "once free always free." The argument was rejected by a Missouri court, but Scott and his white supporters managed to get the case into federal court, where the issue was simply whether a slave had standing -- that is, the legal right -- to sue in a federal court. So the first question the Supreme Court had to decide was whether it had jurisdiction. If Scott had standing, then the Court had jurisdiction, and the justices could go on to decide the merits of his claim. But if, as a slave, Scott did not have standing, then the Court could dismiss the suit for lack of jurisdiction.

The Court ruled that Scott, as a slave, could not exercise the prerogative of a free citizen to sue in federal court. That should have been the end of the case, but Chief Justice Taney and the other southern sympathizers on the Court hoped that a definitive ruling would settle the issue of slavery in the territories once and for all. So they went on to rule that the Missouri Compromise of 1820 was unconstitutional since Congress could not forbid citizens from taking their property, i.e., slaves, into any territory owned by the United States. A slave, Taney ruled, was property, nothing more, and could never be a citizen.

The South, of course, welcomed the ruling, but in the North it raised a storm of protest and scorn. It helped create the Republican Party, and disgust at the decision may have played a role in the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860.

For further reading: Don E. Fehrenbacher, The Dred Scott Case (1978); Walter Ehrlich, They Have No Rights: Dred Scott's Struggle for Freedom (1979).

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There will be a price to pay for this judicial tyranny.

"Let us not talk falsely now--the hour is getting late."

Roy Benavidez CMH winner whose hands moved so fast making the sign of the cross "I looked like an airplane prop"--

Fifty wounds, saved his wounded buddies, directed fire at the enemy--and practiced his faith--

He would later say, "Hero? No, just doing my duty."

2,682 posted on 03/26/2005 12:36:19 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: valleygal
Back in the early days of abortion clinics, I called them "cottage industries."

Once these businesses begin, they are difficult to remove, particularly when the likes of well-read Ann Landers and Dear Abby are condoning, recommending, Planned Parenthood, and sex education in schools.

Nothing they said has improved our country. Families have fallen apart and children raised in solid, two-parent, homes are not the norm any longer.

Old Ann and Abby, communist Bella Abzug (the hat), and Gloria Steinum, then Patricia Ireland (NOW), got women believing they could be chief executives of corporations if they'd stash their kids in nursery schools and get a job. Men weren't reliable, trustworthy, so women shouldn't depend on a husband to care for his family.

So what happened?

Women left the home in droves - dreams of more money - of larger homes (higher property taxes), nicer furniture on credit cards, a larger, more expensive wardrobe. Also, another worker in the family meant 2 cars were necessary - more car insurance, gasoline.

After a hard day's work at a dreary desk, Mom is too tired to cook dinner, much less attend a PTA meeting, or be a homeroom mother to her child's classroom, be a Cub Scout Den Mother, etc. Buy fast food or easy-to-prepare microwave meals and plop it on the table, disregarding that the kids are undisciplined and have the manners of slobs.

Such a woman is trapped! There are only so many big-money executive positions in any company.

Children need good examples of behavior set by adults. Laws are enacted for a reason - to protect all of society. If they disagree with a law, then teach the children how to change those laws working through legal avenues of the government. For our public schools certainly aren't doing it.

4,088 posted on 03/26/2005 8:52:55 PM PST by lakey
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