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Quiet Judge Persists In Schiavo Maelstrom (In-Depth Article About Judge Greer)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | Published March 6, 2005 | By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 03/24/2005 9:44:09 AM PST by Lazamataz

CLEARWATER - Some of the hundreds of e-mails and letters he gets call him a "murderer."

"Are you related to (Josef) Mengele, or just a student?" one man wrote, referring to the ruthless Nazi doctor.

An indignant woman who believed his decisions weren't Christian once called and asked if he thought he was going to heaven.

Deputies who fear for his safety escort him to and from work.

That's life these days for Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer, who has ruled that Terri Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed, allowing her to die. Greer sits at the epicenter of the international debate over Schiavo's life, a judge who answers critics with the only rebuttal allowed by rules of judicial conduct:

Silence.

"The really difficult part of this job," Greer said, "is that you can't defend yourself."

The world knows so much about Schiavo's life, but little about the 63-year-old Greer.

A balding man whose voice has no trace of his native Brooklyn, he travels to unwind and jogs to stay fit. He has run two marathons, though the last was 20 years ago. Friends say his eyesight is awful. It's so bad, in fact, that he doesn't drive.

And Greer, vilified by many religious protesters, is a church regular. He also is a conservative Republican in a state whose conservative Republican governor tried to overturn one of Greer's orders.

"George is the religious right," said lawyer David Kurland, a longtime friend.

Friends say Greer's intellect is perfectly formed to withstand the very tempest he now faces. Always calm, not prone to mood swings or flares of temper, unerringly polite, he is not easily ruffled, they say.

But the criticisms sting, friends say. His relationship with his church, for example, has changed.

"He's been through a lot of storms in his life," said Mary Repper, a political consultant and friend. "This is just another one. George takes everything in stride."

Just don't ask Greer about his college housemate Jim Morrison, the legendary front man of the rock 'n' roll group the Doors.

Nobody took Morrison in stride, not even Greer.

* * *

When Greer came into adulthood in the 1960s, he was about as counterculture as Barry Goldwater, the presidential candidate he voted for in 1964. One of Greer's favorite bands is the Bee Gees.

His biggest brush then with nonconformity: being cited for underage drinking about the time he entered FSU and hunting without a license in 1959.

Greer, whose family moved to Dunedin when he was 4, spent 21/2 years at St. Petersburg Junior College before entering Florida State University in 1962 as a 20-year-old. He majored in marketing.

He moved to a house about a mile from the FSU campus with a friend and some students he didn't know. Greer described the house this way: "Jim Morrison and five normal people."

One Halloween, Greer recalled, Morrison greeted children out trick-or-treating at the front door completely naked. Morrison had lighter fluid in his mouth. He spit it out, touching a match to the fluid to create a roaring flame.

"The poor little kids ran screaming to their parents," Greer said.

The Morrison biography, No One Here Gets Out Alive by Jerry Hopkins and Daniel Sugerman, provides a description Greer won't contradict.

Morrison "drank their beers, ate their food, and wore their clothes without asking," the book said of Morrison's relationship with his housemates.

"He kept careful records of all his actions, and their reactions, writing in his journals as if he were an anthropologist and his housemates were his subjects. In less than three months' time, Jim had the household frantic. Everyone was living in a constant state of anxiety over what was going to happen next.

"It all blew up one night in December ... when Jim was playing Elvis too loud."

After one semester, the housemates asked Morrison to leave. He transferred to UCLA in California, where he found fame.

"He was a bright guy," Greer said. "He liked his tequila. All of us at one time or another had him on the floor with our fists raised."

Housemate Chris Kallivokas, now a Washington financial consultant, said Greer was the steady influence in a crazy house.

"George was stable, mature and structured," Kallivokas said. "He was an organized guy with a sort of balanced personality, very even-headed, not controversial, very solid. He went to class every day."

* * *

After graduating from FSU and earning a law degree from the University of Florida, Greer settled into a Clearwater practice, specializing in zoning and land use issues. He married, had twin boys, and divorced in the mid 1970s.

In 1984, he ran for Pinellas County Commission, running against the board's only Democrat. Greer won a narrow victory, campaigning on his opposition to building a Pinellas sports stadium that would eventually be built and is today Tropicana Field.

Greer, who would serve as commission chairman, won a second term to the commission unopposed, and looks back fondly to those political days.

"I think it prepared me to decide issues on their merits, and not on personalities," he said.

Greer looked to a judgeship as the pinnacle of a lawyer's career, and ran for an open seat. He won it, unopposed, in 1992.

"I don't think he had any real enemies," said Kurland, the lawyer who is a friend and once roomed with the judge in the 1970s. "He has a political streak in him. He understands political survival."

One of the lowest points in Greer's career as a judge came in 1998, when he denied an injunction for a wife seeking protection from her husband. He note d that the woman had not liste d any acts of violence by the man.

Days later, the husband stabbed her to death.

Greer said he followed the law, and the woman's co-workers protested outside the courthouse.

"As a judge, there's always the fear that you're going to miss something and somebody is going to get hurt," Greer said. "It happens in all cases. When you make those kind of decisions, there's very little you can do to be 100 percent certain because you never have 100 percent of the facts."

Soon enough, protesters in much greater number would be asking Greer to prolong the life of a woman named Terri Schiavo.

* * *

After a 2000 trial, Greer heard testimony about statements Schiavo made before she collapsed in 1990 indicating, the judge ruled, that she did not want to live by artificial means. Greer decided she was in a persistent vegetative state and that her feeding tube should be removed.

Schiavo's parents disagree, and have waged a bitter court fight since to reverse Greer. So far, they have failed.

But the case has become an international media phenomenon, and Greer has been assailed by many.

"Judge Greer's performance has been so deficient that he should be removed from the case forthwith, if not impeached," Wesley J. Smith, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, a nonpartisan public policy think tank, wrote in an article.

In 2003, attorney Pat Anderson, representing Schiavo's parents, accused Greer of being biased.

"I feel that if Terri called you from hospice, you'd try to talk her into giving up and dying," Anderson said. "I feel that you're that committed to her death."

She asked him to step down - the fourth time Greer had been asked to disqualify himself from the case. Greer refused, although it would have been an easy escape.

"Four of the worst decisions I ever made," Greer later joked.

Greer is a Southern Baptist who attended Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater. But his attendance faltered after a Baptist publication the church supported became highly critical of him, he said.

Greer, who said he had other unrelated problems with the church, said he explained to a deacon, "If I don't like what the St. Pete Times writes about me, my only recourse is to cancel my subscription." So he stopped his donations to the church, though he is still a member.

Last year, Greer drew his first opponent in any race for re-election. Protesters in the Schiavo case rallied around Jan Govan. But Greer easily defeated Govan.

For Greer, Schiavo is particularly difficult. He has always been easy with the media, giving some reporters his cell phone number. When someone asks a question, he answers it, though he is always careful not to talk about the merits of any case.

After one Schiavo hearing, he answered reporters' questions, only to see lawyers try to remove him from the case for it. Now, he measures his words, and even was reluctant to talk about his days with Morrison.

While friends say Greer's personality has largely remained unaffected, they do note some small differences from the pressures of the case.

"I think he's a little quieter, a little more reserved, not around friends but around other folks," said Ed Armstrong, a Clearwater lawyer and close friend. "I don't think he has enjoyed being in the spotlight."

Neither Armstrong nor Greer will discuss one thing few know about Greer: In 2002, the judge offered to donate one of his kidneys to Armstrong, who needed a transplant. Armstrong found another donor. "If the critics knew the man, they wouldn't say some of the things they do about him," Armstrong said.

Greer said he is sometimes baffled by the more hateful criticism. He said his faith has not been shaken.

"What's so exasperating is that my faith is based on forgiveness because that's what God did," Greer said. "When I see people in my faith being extremely judgmental, it's very disconcerting."

But he follows the law, he said. "There are no Ten Commandments out there," he said, pointing to his outer office.

"My oath is to follow the law, and if I can't follow the law, I need to step down," he said.

Critics who condemn him in the religious press, he said, "have nothing to do with my relationship with God. They can't affect it."

He accepts the security precautions, Greer said, as a necessary inconvenience. But he acknowledges that his wife worries.

"I can't dwell on it. I'm not going to do anything stupid. But I'm not going to dig a hole and crawl into it. ... This isn't Colombia. This isn't drug lords terrorizing the judiciary. It's America."

He realizes that whatever his accomplishments, he will always be remembered for the Schiavo case.

And Greer's answer to the indignant protester who called asking if he thought he was going to heaven: yes.

Times researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report.

GEORGE W. GREER AGE: 63

FAMILY: Married to his second wife for about 20 years. Father of twin boys, now adults.

EDUCATION: Associate's degree, St. Petersburg Junior College, 1962; bachelor's degree, Florida State University, 1964; law degree, University of Florida College of Law, 1966.

PROFESSIONAL: Solo practitioner in Clearwater, 1969-1992; county commissioner, 1984-1992; elected Pinellas-Pasco circuit judge in 1992, re-elected in 1998 and again in 2004. Greer says he will retire after his six-year term finishes. Currently serves in probate division, which handles wills, estates and guardianships.

PERSONAL: Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., grew up in Dunedin, where he says he pitched the first no-hitter in history of Dunedin Little League as a 12-year-old; hobbies include running and traveling. He owns a Yorkshire terrier named Mr. Bailey.


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KEYWORDS: corrupt; evil; judgegreer; murderer; nocompassion; pontiuspilate; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Lazamataz; All
Another of Judge Greer's stellar rulings: http://www.rense.com/general63/retiredsheriffspeaks.htm

"Imagine for a moment that you are a Circuit Court Judge. A terrified woman comes before your Court pleading for her life.

She testifies, under oath, that her violent and demented husband raped her, set her clothes on fire and threatens to kill her. She needs your help and petitions your court for an Injunction for Protection.
What would you do? Well, this is what a real Circuit Court Judge of the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida; by the name of Judge George W. Greer decided:

He actually had this exact case come before his bench seven years ago, when Helene Ball McGee, from Dunedin Florida pleaded with him to grant her an Injunction for Protection. Helene was in absolute fear for her life.

Judge George W. Greer, however, refused to help her, because (according to him) she had not shown him enough proof that her husband was physically violent yet.

Two weeks later her deranged husband, Bobby Lane McGee, stabbed her to death."

[snip]
By John J McDougall
Retired Florida Sheriff of Lee County Florida
3-19-5

41 posted on 03/24/2005 10:08:35 AM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lazamataz
In 2003, attorney Pat Anderson, representing Schiavo's parents, accused Greer of being biased.

"I feel that if Terri called you from hospice, you'd try to talk her into giving up and dying," Anderson said. "I feel that you're that committed to her death."

Greer has allowed himself to get trapped in a position that Terri must die. If she lives and recovers even somewhat, his eternal legacy will be that he was willing to kill her. If she dies, the furor will eventually soften and die out.

42 posted on 03/24/2005 10:08:45 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: Lazamataz

"I don't think he had any real enemies," said Kurland, the lawyer who is a friend and once roomed with the judge in the 1970s. "He has a political streak in him. He understands political survival."

He has more enemies now than he ever could imagine. Even God is his enemy and the idiot doesn't realize it.


43 posted on 03/24/2005 10:09:57 AM PST by DarthVader (John "Diarrhea of the Mouth" Kerry = Vile Smelling Excrement)
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To: Petronski; Lazamataz
The sicko Greer has his friends in the press. What a surprise!

I am really more than pissed right now!!!!!

44 posted on 03/24/2005 10:10:58 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Lazamataz

Tough position to be in. I think, legally-speaking, he made the correct decision.


45 posted on 03/24/2005 10:11:13 AM PST by Modernman ("They're not people, they're hippies!"- Cartman)
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To: kaktuskid
Hitler, according to John Toland's biography was also an antivivisectionist and a vegetarian. Seems many of this type like animals but not people.
46 posted on 03/24/2005 10:11:32 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: kaktuskid
And Hitler was nice to dogs!

Ideological father of PETA.

47 posted on 03/24/2005 10:11:38 AM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done)
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To: Diogenesis

(But he follows the law, he said. "There are no Ten Commandments out there," he said, pointing to his outer office.)

What law does he follow? Since when is hearsay evidence with no corroboration accepted? The whole case revolves around Michael Schiavo's hearsay that Teri told him she wouldn't want to stay alive if what is happening to her happened. The question then becomes: How believable is he, and is there any other proof to corroborate what he said? In the absence of evidence (and as an auditor I know about evidence), it's hard to say that a conscious human being should be killed. I know we have higher standards of evidence for criminals. Doesn't Teri deserve as many rights as accused serial killers?


48 posted on 03/24/2005 10:12:20 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Lazamataz
I haven't voted for a rat in a long time but in Greer's case...I'd definitely make an exception.
49 posted on 03/24/2005 10:13:33 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am constantly driven to my knees by the knowledge that there is nowhere else to go" A. Lincoln

(ain't it the truth)


50 posted on 03/24/2005 10:14:33 AM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done)
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To: inkling
No doubt Judge Greer can enjoy a steak dinner tonight at a restaurant such as Ruth's Chris, cooked to his preference, perhaps preceded by a Ceasar salad, accompanied by a baked potato with lots of bacon bits, sour cream, chives, and butter, and washed down with a glass or two of a wine of good vintage. Then perhaps a slice of apple pie a la mode or chocolate layer cake, and maybe ending with an after-dinner adult beverage of his choice. Then he may go home, with a conscience deadened to the fact that Teresa Marie Schiavo cannot even have water to sustain even her bodily functions.

I hope Judge Greer can obtain a copy of the Bible (any translation will do) and read the story of Lazarus and the rich man (Luke 16:19-31). Perhaps he will then see what he has wrought and repent of his sin.

51 posted on 03/24/2005 10:14:46 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Diogenesis

Note the Bernie McCabe reference. He is the state attorney who stopped the FDLE investigation.


52 posted on 03/24/2005 10:15:25 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: Diogenesis
He is a Member of the Board of the Hospice and had no right covering up their systematic murder of this woman.

If the utterly corrupt courts had given Terri due process, this and hundreds of other suspicious and/or incriminating facts would have come to light. Now they will be hidden forever, except of course in the eyes of The Big Guy, who will be the true judge of all this.

53 posted on 03/24/2005 10:18:36 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Lazamataz
What is the process to have the good Judge impeached?

Maybe the process should start now.

54 posted on 03/24/2005 10:18:39 AM PST by Nachum ( "Let everyone get a move on and take some hilltops! Whatever we take, will be ours- Ariel Sharon)
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To: winner3000

Judge Greer, having been ousted by Christian churches, has taken up SANTERIA. Castro's favorite religion. Isn't that just special??????


55 posted on 03/24/2005 10:18:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
" Friends say his eyesight is awful. It's so bad, in fact, that he doesn't drive."

How sad this poor man has a disability. /sarcasm

If Terri's dies, the state of FL should use her case to justify withholding of food and water from Judge Greer. After all, this disable judge is the one that has adamantly defended the killing of disabled people.

56 posted on 03/24/2005 10:19:26 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: Modernman
I think, legally-speaking, he made the correct decision.

NEVER!

Your screen name says it all. All you "oh so modern", cosmopolitan liberals. Let me spell it out for you. No one has the right to make a decision to unnaturally end another person's life. That is murder. No one has the (moral) right to lay the burden of pulling the plug unnaturally on ones loved ones. That's thoughtless and uncaring.

The Schaivo case teaches me that, as with abortion, we are not mature enough as a people to play with this sort of promethean fire. Therefore I oppose the whole concept of assisted death.

57 posted on 03/24/2005 10:19:41 AM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done)
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To: Diogenesis

Felos was on the BOD of the Hospice.

I don't think Greer was.


58 posted on 03/24/2005 10:19:50 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Lazamataz
...One of the lowest points in Greer's career as a judge came in 1998, when he denied an injunction for a wife seeking protection from her husband. He noted that the woman had not listed any acts of violence by the man.

Days later, the husband stabbed her to death.

Greer said he followed the law...

"As a judge, there's always the fear that you're going to miss something and somebody is going to get hurt, (but hey, no skin off my ass!)" Greer said. "It happens in all cases. When you make those kind of decisions, there's very little you can do to be 100 percent certain because you never have 100 percent of the facts. (So my motto is: If you can't be 100%, blow it big time and shoot for ZERO!)"


...Greer is a Southern Baptist who attended Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater. But his attendance faltered after a Baptist publication the church supported became highly critical of him, he said.

Greer, who said he had other unrelated problems with the church, said he explained to a deacon, "If I don't like what the St. Pete Times writes about me, my only recourse is to cancel my subscription." So he stopped his donations to the church, though he is still a member...

...Greer said he is sometimes baffled by the more hateful criticism. He said his faith has not been shaken.

What's so exasperating is that my faith is based on forgiveness (you know, like how I stopped tithing to my church) because that's what God did," Greer said. "When I see people in my faith being extremely judgmental, it's very disconcerting."...

Critics who condemn him in the religious press, he said, "have nothing to do with my relationship with God. They can't affect it. (because with God I think I can relate.)"


No cognitive dissonance there. WHAT A HYPOCRITE!

59 posted on 03/24/2005 10:21:06 AM PST by BufordP ("I wish we lived in the day when you could challenge a person to a duel!"--Zell Miller)
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To: AlbionGirl

"Dr. Ronald Cranford is one of the most outspoken advocates of the “right to die” movement and of physician-assisted suicide in the U.S. today.".

"Perusing the case literature and articles surrounding the “right to die” and PVS, one will see Dr. Cranford’s name surface again and again. In almost every case, he is the one claiming PVS, and advocating the cessation of nutrition and hydration. [. . .]".

And so the liberal agenda is revealed. As if we didn't know why so many Democrats and liberals are screaming "Kill her!".


60 posted on 03/24/2005 10:21:35 AM PST by MisterRepublican (End Judicial Tyranny Now!)
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