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Quiet Judge Persists In Schiavo Maelstrom (In-Depth Article About Judge Greer)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | Published March 6, 2005 | By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 03/24/2005 9:44:09 AM PST by Lazamataz

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To: Lazamataz; All
Another of Judge Greer's stellar rulings: http://www.rense.com/general63/retiredsheriffspeaks.htm

"Imagine for a moment that you are a Circuit Court Judge. A terrified woman comes before your Court pleading for her life.

She testifies, under oath, that her violent and demented husband raped her, set her clothes on fire and threatens to kill her. She needs your help and petitions your court for an Injunction for Protection.
What would you do? Well, this is what a real Circuit Court Judge of the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida; by the name of Judge George W. Greer decided:

He actually had this exact case come before his bench seven years ago, when Helene Ball McGee, from Dunedin Florida pleaded with him to grant her an Injunction for Protection. Helene was in absolute fear for her life.

Judge George W. Greer, however, refused to help her, because (according to him) she had not shown him enough proof that her husband was physically violent yet.

Two weeks later her deranged husband, Bobby Lane McGee, stabbed her to death."

[snip]
By John J McDougall
Retired Florida Sheriff of Lee County Florida
3-19-5

41 posted on 03/24/2005 10:08:35 AM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lazamataz
In 2003, attorney Pat Anderson, representing Schiavo's parents, accused Greer of being biased.

"I feel that if Terri called you from hospice, you'd try to talk her into giving up and dying," Anderson said. "I feel that you're that committed to her death."

Greer has allowed himself to get trapped in a position that Terri must die. If she lives and recovers even somewhat, his eternal legacy will be that he was willing to kill her. If she dies, the furor will eventually soften and die out.

42 posted on 03/24/2005 10:08:45 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: Lazamataz

"I don't think he had any real enemies," said Kurland, the lawyer who is a friend and once roomed with the judge in the 1970s. "He has a political streak in him. He understands political survival."

He has more enemies now than he ever could imagine. Even God is his enemy and the idiot doesn't realize it.


43 posted on 03/24/2005 10:09:57 AM PST by DarthVader (John "Diarrhea of the Mouth" Kerry = Vile Smelling Excrement)
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To: Petronski; Lazamataz
The sicko Greer has his friends in the press. What a surprise!

I am really more than pissed right now!!!!!

44 posted on 03/24/2005 10:10:58 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Lazamataz

Tough position to be in. I think, legally-speaking, he made the correct decision.


45 posted on 03/24/2005 10:11:13 AM PST by Modernman ("They're not people, they're hippies!"- Cartman)
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To: kaktuskid
Hitler, according to John Toland's biography was also an antivivisectionist and a vegetarian. Seems many of this type like animals but not people.
46 posted on 03/24/2005 10:11:32 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: kaktuskid
And Hitler was nice to dogs!

Ideological father of PETA.

47 posted on 03/24/2005 10:11:38 AM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done)
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To: Diogenesis

(But he follows the law, he said. "There are no Ten Commandments out there," he said, pointing to his outer office.)

What law does he follow? Since when is hearsay evidence with no corroboration accepted? The whole case revolves around Michael Schiavo's hearsay that Teri told him she wouldn't want to stay alive if what is happening to her happened. The question then becomes: How believable is he, and is there any other proof to corroborate what he said? In the absence of evidence (and as an auditor I know about evidence), it's hard to say that a conscious human being should be killed. I know we have higher standards of evidence for criminals. Doesn't Teri deserve as many rights as accused serial killers?


48 posted on 03/24/2005 10:12:20 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Lazamataz
I haven't voted for a rat in a long time but in Greer's case...I'd definitely make an exception.
49 posted on 03/24/2005 10:13:33 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am constantly driven to my knees by the knowledge that there is nowhere else to go" A. Lincoln

(ain't it the truth)


50 posted on 03/24/2005 10:14:33 AM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done)
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To: inkling
No doubt Judge Greer can enjoy a steak dinner tonight at a restaurant such as Ruth's Chris, cooked to his preference, perhaps preceded by a Ceasar salad, accompanied by a baked potato with lots of bacon bits, sour cream, chives, and butter, and washed down with a glass or two of a wine of good vintage. Then perhaps a slice of apple pie a la mode or chocolate layer cake, and maybe ending with an after-dinner adult beverage of his choice. Then he may go home, with a conscience deadened to the fact that Teresa Marie Schiavo cannot even have water to sustain even her bodily functions.

I hope Judge Greer can obtain a copy of the Bible (any translation will do) and read the story of Lazarus and the rich man (Luke 16:19-31). Perhaps he will then see what he has wrought and repent of his sin.

51 posted on 03/24/2005 10:14:46 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Diogenesis

Note the Bernie McCabe reference. He is the state attorney who stopped the FDLE investigation.


52 posted on 03/24/2005 10:15:25 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: Diogenesis
He is a Member of the Board of the Hospice and had no right covering up their systematic murder of this woman.

If the utterly corrupt courts had given Terri due process, this and hundreds of other suspicious and/or incriminating facts would have come to light. Now they will be hidden forever, except of course in the eyes of The Big Guy, who will be the true judge of all this.

53 posted on 03/24/2005 10:18:36 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Lazamataz
What is the process to have the good Judge impeached?

Maybe the process should start now.

54 posted on 03/24/2005 10:18:39 AM PST by Nachum ( "Let everyone get a move on and take some hilltops! Whatever we take, will be ours- Ariel Sharon)
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To: winner3000

Judge Greer, having been ousted by Christian churches, has taken up SANTERIA. Castro's favorite religion. Isn't that just special??????


55 posted on 03/24/2005 10:18:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
" Friends say his eyesight is awful. It's so bad, in fact, that he doesn't drive."

How sad this poor man has a disability. /sarcasm

If Terri's dies, the state of FL should use her case to justify withholding of food and water from Judge Greer. After all, this disable judge is the one that has adamantly defended the killing of disabled people.

56 posted on 03/24/2005 10:19:26 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: Modernman
I think, legally-speaking, he made the correct decision.

NEVER!

Your screen name says it all. All you "oh so modern", cosmopolitan liberals. Let me spell it out for you. No one has the right to make a decision to unnaturally end another person's life. That is murder. No one has the (moral) right to lay the burden of pulling the plug unnaturally on ones loved ones. That's thoughtless and uncaring.

The Schaivo case teaches me that, as with abortion, we are not mature enough as a people to play with this sort of promethean fire. Therefore I oppose the whole concept of assisted death.

57 posted on 03/24/2005 10:19:41 AM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done)
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To: Diogenesis

Felos was on the BOD of the Hospice.

I don't think Greer was.


58 posted on 03/24/2005 10:19:50 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Lazamataz
...One of the lowest points in Greer's career as a judge came in 1998, when he denied an injunction for a wife seeking protection from her husband. He noted that the woman had not listed any acts of violence by the man.

Days later, the husband stabbed her to death.

Greer said he followed the law...

"As a judge, there's always the fear that you're going to miss something and somebody is going to get hurt, (but hey, no skin off my ass!)" Greer said. "It happens in all cases. When you make those kind of decisions, there's very little you can do to be 100 percent certain because you never have 100 percent of the facts. (So my motto is: If you can't be 100%, blow it big time and shoot for ZERO!)"


...Greer is a Southern Baptist who attended Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater. But his attendance faltered after a Baptist publication the church supported became highly critical of him, he said.

Greer, who said he had other unrelated problems with the church, said he explained to a deacon, "If I don't like what the St. Pete Times writes about me, my only recourse is to cancel my subscription." So he stopped his donations to the church, though he is still a member...

...Greer said he is sometimes baffled by the more hateful criticism. He said his faith has not been shaken.

What's so exasperating is that my faith is based on forgiveness (you know, like how I stopped tithing to my church) because that's what God did," Greer said. "When I see people in my faith being extremely judgmental, it's very disconcerting."...

Critics who condemn him in the religious press, he said, "have nothing to do with my relationship with God. They can't affect it. (because with God I think I can relate.)"


No cognitive dissonance there. WHAT A HYPOCRITE!

59 posted on 03/24/2005 10:21:06 AM PST by BufordP ("I wish we lived in the day when you could challenge a person to a duel!"--Zell Miller)
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To: AlbionGirl

"Dr. Ronald Cranford is one of the most outspoken advocates of the “right to die” movement and of physician-assisted suicide in the U.S. today.".

"Perusing the case literature and articles surrounding the “right to die” and PVS, one will see Dr. Cranford’s name surface again and again. In almost every case, he is the one claiming PVS, and advocating the cessation of nutrition and hydration. [. . .]".

And so the liberal agenda is revealed. As if we didn't know why so many Democrats and liberals are screaming "Kill her!".


60 posted on 03/24/2005 10:21:35 AM PST by MisterRepublican (End Judicial Tyranny Now!)
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