*LIVE* Judge to RULE on Gov. Bush's Request for Custody of Schiavo! (MOTION DENIED 2:07 ET)

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[davidosborne]

Breaking News

[el_chupacabra]

My understanding (albeit coming from CNN) is that Greer denied the state's petition this morning but has not yet ruled on DCF's petition.

This, of course, could be complete flapdoodle, but it does explain the seemingly conflicting information swirling out there.

[MineralMan]

That's not going to happen. That's an advocation of violence.

[bosher]

Impeach Judge Greer.....
http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html

[Asphalt]

My point is would you have wanted Clinton to violate the Constitution if he felt strongly about something? You're in trouble once you start forgetting the law and doing what you think is best.

[northernlightsII]

Thank you for the info. DId I understand that Greer may be trying to preemptively vacate a stay of the Supreme court before it is issued?

[zippee]

I pray you are right too...as long as it's legal. I don't want Jeb to break any laws.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

[MineralMan]

"Rouge judges have been disregarding the Constitution for decades."

It's the black-robed judges I worry about. The ones in pink don't worry me.

[Glenmerle]

Does anyone know how this ruling with be issued.

No, I don't know. I do know that I gave up on Fox News and I'm reading posts on FR in order to get the real details behind this story! (Listening to Rush, too.)

[rwfromkansas]

He will say no.

He says no to everything, even the right of DCF to investigate 30 claims of abuse against Terri!

[hispanarepublicana]

Remember who we're dealing with:



Is candidate trying to hide his gender?
Jan Govan's opponent, Judge George Greer, says Mr. Govan is trying to use his first name to trick women into voting for him.
By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer
Published July 15, 2004

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ST. PETERSBURG - First, let there be no doubt: Jan Govan is a man.

But Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer, whom Govan is challenging in the Aug. 31 election, wonders whether Govan is trying to pull a fast one.

Is Jan trying to fool voters into thinking he's a she to gain a political edge?

"I believe I respect the voters more than my opponent does," Greer said Wednesday. "For some reason, it does not appear that he wants them to know he's a man."

The problem, Greer said, is that Govan's first name might confuse some voters. And Govan's advertisements and campaign Web site don't show his picture or have any helpful he's or hims to clarify the candidate's gender, the judge said.

Govan said he isn't hiding anything, joking, "Maybe I should challenge him to an arm-wrestling match."

Greer said Govan's ad in a recent issue of Tampa Bay-based Women's News was the clincher. It urges people to vote for Govan "because women have choices, too!"

Govan said the ad is a simple pitch to a publication's very specific audience. Greer said he sees it as proof Govan is trying to hide his gender.

The prevailing political wisdom in the Tampa Bay area is that female judicial candidates get a boost at the polls, presumably from female voters.

In 2000, Hillsborough Circuit Court candidate Leland Baldwin legally changed her name, adding the middle name Anne to avert confusion over her gender. She said: "Why should I be penalized because I have an androgynous name?"

It didn't matter. Baldwin lost.

Also in Hillsborough, Joelle Ober lost one campaign for a judgeship in 1994. Thinking voters were confused by her first name, she appeared on the ballot as Ann Ober in a 1996 race for a County Court seat. She won.

Jack Latvala, a former state senator from Palm Harbor who now works as a political consultant, said he knows of no study that has demonstrated a woman had the advantage at the polls in nonpartisan judicial campaigns.

But people believe it's true anyway, he said. "You talk about it so much, it becomes a fact," he said.

Latvala, who isn't working for Govan or Greer, said the lack of a picture in material promoting Govan makes him think he "probably doesn't want anyone to know what his gender is."

Govan chuckled at the notion he's trying to fool anyone. Govan said his name is beyond his control. "My name has been Jan Govan since birth," he said.

Govan noted his picture has appeared in the newspaper. And he said he volunteered to have it taken, unafraid to show the world he is a man.

Then, Govan jokingly challenged a reporter to some traditional manly activities.

"Do you want to get into a fist fight?" he asked. "Do you want to get into a seed-spitting contest?"

[Chad Fairbanks]

My point is would you have wanted Clinton to violate the Constitution if he felt strongly about something? You're in trouble once you start forgetting the law and doing what you think is best.

I know. I've been saying that for days, but no one listened, so screw it, I'm gonna get all hysterical and call for bad decisions, too. If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em...

[MinuteGal]

*Rouge* judges have been disregarding the Constitution for decades.

Your mispelled word is absolutely apropos, LOL.

Leni

[Soul Seeker]

This is the result of a Culture of Death.

I can't bring you comfort. I don't like we've reached a point where the Judicial branch is the Supreme Government. I can only state evil doesn't triumph forever, and Terri's case doesn't mark the end of the fight.

[mccann]

I'm listening to Rush, too.

[advance_copy]

I think so, but I don't think that will work. Governor Bush is not finished (he's also not foolish like some of those who want him to just forcibly remove Terri).

[utahagen]

No, Jeb is too smart and too honest for that. Jeb Bush has done enough already if his only goal is to be able to say, "Gee, I tried." Yesterday's 3pm conference was, I believe, laying the groundwork to have the DCF take Terri into protective custody once all the normal channels are (predictably) exhausted.

Pray, Freepers. We've come too far to give up hope now. Having Bush/DCF grab Terry is a real option. Let's pray with all our hearts it's exercised.

[MineralMan]

"So what???? If Bush won't act NOW, maybe we should ask the UN to intervene! They could send in a special French unit to free her from those Nazi stormtrooper cops that arrest children...!!!!!!!"

That's the ticket!

[tx_eggman]

Actually, I havn't eaten anything yet. But that's not the point! The point is, Bush is doing nothing! I want Bush to take the law into his own hands, violate the constitution if he has to! He must do SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you suggest?

[housewife101]

I don't have cable so I am depending on FR and Rush as well.