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To: eleni121

I have read this account previously, and in my opinion it supports, even helped form, my statement about the German orchestrating the Genocide.

I see the mention of Talaat Bey, Enver Pasha, von Wangenheim who was in it up to his eyeballs, but no Attaturk.

In Dr. Niepage's own words:

"Ta'alim el aleman' ('the teaching of the Germans') is the simple Turk's explanation to everyone who asks him about the originators of these measures.

"The educated Moslems are convinced that, even though the German nation discountenances such horrors, the German Government is taking no steps to put a stop to them, out of consideration for its Turkish Ally.

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"Mohammedans, too, of more sensitive feelings--Turks and Arabs alike--shake their heads in disapproval and do not conceal their tears when they see a convoy of exiles marching through the city, and Turkish soldiers using cudgels upon women in advanced pregnancy and upon dying people who can no longer drag themselves along. They cannot believe that their Government has ordered these atrocities, and they hold the Germans responsible for all such outrages, Germany being considered during the war as Turkey's school-master in everything. Even the mollahs in the mosques say that it was not the Sublime Porte but the German officers who ordered the ill-treatrnent and destruction of the Armenians.

"The things which have been passing here for months under everybody's eyes will certainly remain as a stain on Germany's shield in the memory of Orientals.

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"Even apart from our common duty as Christians, we Germans are under a special obligation to stop the complete extermination of the half-million Armenian Christians who still survive. We are Turkey's allies and, after the elimination of the French, English and Russians, we are the only foreigners who have any say in Turkish affairs. We may indignantly refute the lies of our enemies abroad, who say that the massacres have been organised by German Consuls. We shall not be able to dissipate the Turkish nation's conviction that the Armenian massacres were ordered by Germany, unless energetic steps are at last taken by German diplomatists and officers. And even if we cleared ourselves of everything but the one reproach that our timidity and weakness in dealing with our ally had prevented us from saving half a million women and children from slaughter or death by starvation, the image of the German War would be disfigured for all time in the mirror of history by a hideous feature."





61 posted on 03/26/2005 12:55:37 PM PST by dervish (Let Europe pay for NATO)
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To: dervish

Stop with the convolutions. We were origianlly discussing Turkey - Ataturky is a side issue. Since you bring it up again:

Ataturk perpetrated another genocide---Muslims can't get enough it appears.

900,000 deaths at least perpetrated by Mustafa Kemal "ataturk" netween 1918-1823

http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/Slouch_power4.html


63 posted on 03/26/2005 1:16:58 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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