Bush decries border project

Washington Times ^ | March 24, 2005 | James G. Lakely

[mikemikemikecubed]

WACO, Texas -- President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes." He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law. More than 1,000 people -- including 30 pilots and their private planes -- have volunteered for the Minuteman Project, beginning next month along the Arizona-Mexico border. Civilians will monitor the movement of illegal aliens for the month of April and report them to the Border Patrol. Mr. Bush said after yesterday's continental summit, with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin at Baylor University, that he finds such actions unacceptable. "I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America," Mr. Bush said at a joint press conference. "I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way." The Minuteman Project was born out of a long-held perception among many residents that more Border Patrol agents are needed to handle the flow of illegal immigrants. Mr. Bush was criticized by both Republicans and Democrats earlier this month for failing to add 2,000 agents to the Border Patrol, as set out in the intelligence overhaul legislation he signed in December. The president's 2006 budget allows enough money to add only 210 agents for the U.S. borders with Canada and Mexico. Mr. Bush said he will "continue to push for reasonable, common-sense immigration policy." He has proposed legislation to grant guest-worker status to millions of illegal aliens already in the United States. The legislation has attracted scant support in Congress, where it is widely regarded as another amnesty that will encourage even more illegal immigration.

[who knows what evil?]

Conservatives are always astonished that the blacks continually run around on the 'Democrat's Plantation', but what are WE for constantly taking this crap from our *leaders*?

You are dead right! We need to start caring for ourselves and stop petitioning the government for a redress of greivances, because they just do NOT give a damn about us (except when they need our vote, and probably not even then).

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I completely disagree. I think if Hillary wins, all the stops would be pulled. "Universal health care" (the socialization of medicine) would be rammed through. There goes 1/7th of the economy and a successful medical industry. The list of what she would do will be shocking. I think it's time to galvanize the country on the side of Conservatism. We're on the way, we just need to keep up the hard work.

But I understand you're argument and hope you're right should that course be realized.

[taxed2death]

"You wish. Most Americans are not so dense they vote single issue and those that allow a single issue to dominate everything else rarely vote."

Thank God for small miracles. Thank God most Americans are not as dense as you.

Most Americans realize that by GWB's lack of a coherant border protection, he basically sets himself up to look like a hypocrite at best...and at worst a complete idiot. He's now 100% totally transparent with all his sucking up to the thief Vinente' Fox.

No border security = No sovereignty

No border security = pretty much blows a bunch of holes into his WOT.

No border security = ditto for WOD

This "single issue" is a biggie. Most Freepers would agree to that. You are in the minority here.

Go sell your "one world" globalism crapola somewhere else.
Too many Americans fought and died for this Republic to just have GWB and the other chicken hawks give it away.

[Mr. Mojo]

....characterizing them [the Minutemen] as "vigilantes."

Get used to it, Prez. This patriotic group will continue to grow, and your false characterizations of them will only serve to strengthen their ranks.

He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law.

The Stupid Party strikes again. The RINO wing of the GOP - the establishment - appears utterly committed to a Hillary victory in '08.

"I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America," Mr. Bush said

Either the Prez doesn't know the meaning of the word 'vigilante' - a distinct possibility - or he's completely ignorant of the methods and stated goals of the MMP. The Minutemen aren't taking the law into their own hands, they're using the "weapons" of binoculars, cell phones, and walkie talkies to alert the Border Patrol to any suspicious activity (illegals crossing the border). That's not vigilantism.

"I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way."

Then why haven't you been doing it? Had you been doing so, there would be no need for the MMP.

The president's 2006 budget allows enough money to add only 210 agents for the U.S. borders

Yet the budget allows for untold U.S. taxpayer billions to nations that both despise us and turn a blind eye to terrorist organizations within their borders.

[F.J. Mitchell]

It does have an eerie aura of dejavu about it.

[AZ_Cowboy]

I can't say I'm surprised, but it is disappointing nonetheless. This is all posturing so nobody calls Republicans bad names (as if our actions had anything to do with the name-calling to begin with).

I hope everything goes well with the Minuteman Project. I would never think of condemning people standing up for their rights as legitimate citizens and property owners. I hope it doesn't get messy. In either event, it will hopefully help bring the issue of border control to the front of everyone's mind for a bit. The GOP really needs to hash this one out. My bet is still that our side will come out on top.

[T.L.Sink]

Absolutely correct. I (and the world) saw Bush and Fox
on Lou Dobbs last night when he called the Minutemen
"vigilantes". Another Bush malapropism! A vigilante is one
who takes the law into his own hands. Not only are they
not doing this but they are upholding a great American
tradition - the right to self-defense. Bush is the one
who has made our out-of-control border area LAWLESS!
He has decimated the border security guard force and is
encouraging what the illegals have brought to this nation:
bankrupt school districts, insolvent hospitals, and
higher taxes for social welfare services and prison
incarceration. And - a threat to national security. As
I have said many times, if terrorists come across the
border among the millions of illegals he will be CRIMINALLY
NEGLIGENT. He refuses to defend the borders of this
country against foreign invasion. So - when the Minutemen
try to protect their lives and property against anarchy
created by Bush they are doing what any American should
do -- defending themselves because the duly constituted
authorities have forfeited their responsibility to do
so.

[af_vet_rr]

Actually, this is especially the time we can risk it. Believe me, it's would be better to have her in the White House than some RINO who'll pursue much the same policies she would, but without serious conservative opposition

I bet this thread is making a lot of people here very uncomfortable, and I'm glad.

For too long, we have not talked about many politicians who call themselves Conservatives, but whose actions say otherwise.

In many ways, and I'm just as guilty as anybody else, we are like somebody who is confronted by something that we don't want to deal with, and so we close our eyes and hope it will go away. It won't, and in fact, by our inaction (in this case, our inaction is not talking about the issue), we are only making it worse. In effect, we are encouraging this, because they become a little bolder.

Many RINO politicians take us for granted, because they know that in the end, we'll usually toe the party line, and so they can tailor their messages and policies to people who call themselves moderate or in fact lean to the left of the center.

It's almost like we are facing our own "Great Schism", so to speak.

We have two choices - we can take the next few elections and use them to return the GOP back to the right (pun intended), and it'll be painful as hell, or we can continue to close our eyes and pretend everything is okay, and our children or grandchildren will pay the price (and the taxes).

It's uncomfortable to talk about, but it's good that many of us are talking about it, and that many of us are on the same page.

Even if our numbers are small at first, chances are, proportionally as a group, we probably vote more than most people. That gives us a lot more power than our numbers would indicate. We might even influence others around us to vote the way we vote.

We could do great things, we could at least force the GOP to reconcile it's present state with its Conservative roots, or, if need be, discard the GOP and setup a new party, or bolster an older third party. It's almost ridiculous that we've turned into a two-party system.

If we busted up this little monopoly the two major parties have, we could actually force the politicians in Washington to listen to us a lot more, and they would have to work with more Conservative elements.

[Czar]

Excellent letter. Of course you are prepared to get back WH Form Letter Reply 22-B which will tell you how seriously the President regards the illegal alien (or "undocumented immigrant" in PC-speak) problem, that his guest worker proposal is designed to get it under control, and that he doesn't believe in amnesty...

[Mr. Mojo]

Spot on.

"if terrorists come across the border among the millions of illegals he [Bush] will be CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT."

Considering the high number of "special interest aliens" that have successfully invaded our country since 9/11/01, I think it's safe to say that terrorists committed to the destruction of the U.S. are already here.

He ignores this at his (and his country's) peril.

[raybbr]

I doubt that hot-headed drunkards and self-appointed defenders of western civilization will be satisfied with merely reporting the movements of people, native or foreign-born.

[SealSeven]

Thanks for the ping. Will read later-

[MississippiMan]

This plays right into Hellary's hands.

Unfortunately true. It gives her an issue to steal and make her own. Prominent GOP candidates, virtually all who would of course oppose Bush's idiotic stance on this issue, could say the exact same thing and the media will act like Hillary is the only one saying it and act like she thought it up herself.

I really don't get Bush's motivation on this nonsense.

MM

[Mr. Mojo]

One is tempted to compare George Bush the Second's globalism to that of his father.

"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance."

- President George H. W. Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N., February 1,1992

[inquest]

Fortunately, it seems like more and more conservatives are recognizing the same truths that you've stated. Unfortunately, it appears as though the hour is getting very late. I'm definitely not saying that it's time for rash measures; I'm just saying that it's also not time for complacency. The heat, the pressure, and the momentum need to be kept up.