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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

(Excerpt) Read more at palmbeachpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Defiant; Political Junkie Too

And the news just came out this week, how Dan Rather's interview with Mr. Gonzalez was orchestrated and handled by Slick's friend/attorney. It all stinks.


521 posted on 03/23/2005 4:50:23 PM PST by lainie
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To: TotusTuus; Barnacle; BlackElk; CAtholic Family Association; .45MAN; 1_real_american; ...

Pro-Life PING!


522 posted on 03/23/2005 4:50:37 PM PST by Phx_RC (Lets all do something for Terri - today)
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To: Servant of the 9

I been listening to civil war tapes for 2 weeks and the parallels to the start of the civil war are a little chilling. however...
How long should we wait out judicial tyranny before we decide to govern ourselves again?


523 posted on 03/23/2005 4:50:42 PM PST by Aloysius88 (Antonin Scalia for Chief Justice.)
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To: sweetliberty
DCFS cases here do NOT go before the same judges that preside over civil and/or criminal matters.

That's good.

524 posted on 03/23/2005 4:51:08 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Servant of the 9

Doesn't matter ... this is a situation #2...EMERGENCY....no court or judge can stop them from taking custody of TERRI...judge has NO ground to stand on...Jeb will be taking Terri into custody tonight...hide and watch....


525 posted on 03/23/2005 4:51:09 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Fudd Fan
I know where I truly and firmly believe her blood will be. The evil trinity:
Michael Schiavo
George Felos
George Greer

They are marked men.

526 posted on 03/23/2005 4:51:54 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Defiant
As I recall, the state courts were in Elian's favor, but the Clintonistas got it into federal court somehow and got a federal judge to order that the father was the legal guardian. They used that order to go grab him.

Furthermore, the Clintons only went federal after the Cuban prisoner riot in Louisiana. Originally, Janet Reno was arguing that the Elian affair was a matter for the family courts in Florida. After an uprecedented agreement by Castro to take the prisoners back, Clinton reversed himself and declared the matter to be a federal immigration issue.

-PJ

527 posted on 03/23/2005 4:52:49 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: shield
this is a situation #2...EMERGENCY....no court or judge can stop them from taking custody of TERRI...judge has NO ground to stand on.

Please explain how the judge has no ground to stand on. (fingers and toes crossed)

528 posted on 03/23/2005 4:52:58 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: shield
Jeb will be taking Terri into custody tonight...hide and watch..

I hope you know something that I don't know.

529 posted on 03/23/2005 4:53:01 PM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns? Is it cowardice?)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
"As I looked at Terri and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold hydration and nutrition from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others."

Dr William Cheshire after spending 90 minutes with Terri Schiavo. Taken from his affadavit dated 3/23/05.

530 posted on 03/23/2005 4:53:50 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Fudd Fan

"I hope he's ok."

Well, he has been abandoned by his Republicans in the Senate -- I'm presuming at least some of them voted against the bill -- because the Florida Supreme Court will just declare it unconstitutional anyway?!? The judiciary can defend their own turf pretty darn well, including the turf they have gotten by just asserting they own it. Can't the legislative branch even pretend to defend theirs??!

Governor Bush's phone box was full, so I wrote an email. I told him that if he has to walk down the street alone, like Gary Cooper in High Noon, well that is what he has to do . . .

Anyway, he is not likely to be as thin as Terri will be, if he doesn't protect her . . . (sigh)


531 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:12 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: shield

Exactly. On Court Tv one of the announcers stated that the state has every right to take Terri into protective custody. If they drag their feet much longer, she will be dead and who knows what harm these delays will do to her. Although Judge Greer might be bought off, IMHO he enjoys having Terri suffer and die.


532 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:19 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Aloysius88
I been listening to civil war tapes for 2 weeks and the parallels to the start of the civil war are a little chilling. however...
How long should we wait out judicial tyranny before we decide to govern ourselves again?

The answer is impeachment on a large scale, State and Federal.
That means voting in legislators who have a pair.

So9

533 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:26 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: everyone

I love it. The liberal bureaucracy ignoring the liberal courts ... on behalf of the right to life. This will drive the culture-of-death folks crazy, if it happens!


534 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:38 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: varon

I think all the judges that denied this case have her blood on their hands. As well as some law makers in the Senate.


535 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:50 PM PST by blueriver
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To: Servant of the 9

Can you say Felony Contempt of Court?

Can you say enforce it?


536 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:51 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: gopwinsin04
Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families

I don't know this lady, never heard of her, of course. But I can't see her overpowering George W. Greer. She would need military force to back her up.

537 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:51 PM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns? Is it cowardice?)
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To: andy58-in-nh
"The Florida court found that most of her cerebral cortex is gone. But 'most' does not mean all. There might be some cortex functioning"

And would the missing cerebral cortex have been sucked out when Terri was in California to have a pair of matching brain electrodes fitted and some "experimental" electro-shock therapy.

Who was the "doctor" and the hospital....enquiring minds seek to know.

Sounds to me like a FEDERAL case here....transporting a comotose patient across state lines for "experimental" surgury.

Who authortized this...?

Who paid...?

538 posted on 03/23/2005 4:55:25 PM PST by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: brigette
The best thing to do is send in the State police to secure the area and then fly in a helicopter to take her to the area they have set up to treat and protect her.

I'm hoping they had the area secured and the hospice under surveillance from just before the press conference.

539 posted on 03/23/2005 4:55:29 PM PST by maryz
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To: jwalsh07

When did the doc meet with her?

And, is that enough to override the court's "assignment" of Michael as Terri's legal guardian?


540 posted on 03/23/2005 4:55:47 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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