Posted on 03/23/2005 7:27:11 AM PST by queenkathy
Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:52 p.m. EST
Second, Third Nurse Accuse Michael Schiavo
Two additional nurses have filed affidavits in the Terri Schiavo case that corroborate bombshell allegations by nurse Carla Sauer Iyer, who went public on Tuesday with claims that Michael Schiavo had deliberately withheld treatment from his disabled wife.
Heidi Law was a certified nursing assistant at the Palm Garden Convalescent Center in Largo, Fla., where she treated Mrs. Schiavo in 1997.
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In an affidavit filed with the court in August 2003, Ms. Law maintained:
"I know that Terri did not receive routine physical therapy or any other kind of therapy. I was personally aware of orders for rehabilitation that were not being carried out. Even though they were ordered, Michael would stop them."
Law continued:
"Michael ordered that Terri receive no rehabilitation or range of motion therapy. I and [another CNA] would give Terri range of motion anyway, but we knew we were endangering our jobs by doing so.
"We usually did this behind closed doors," Law said, because "we were so fearful of being caught ... we were always looking out for Michael, because we knew that, not only would Michael take his anger out on us, but he would take it out more on Terri. We spoke of this many times."
"At least three times during any shift where I took care of Terri, I made sure to give Terri a wet washcloth filled with ice chips, to keep her mouth moistened.
"On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely. I did not do it more often only because I was so afraid of being caught by Michael."
Like nurse Iyer, Law suspected that Michael was mistreating Terri, noting in her sworn statement:
"Several times when Michael visited Terri during my shift, he went into her room alone and closed the door. This worried me because I didn’t trust Michael.
"When he left, Terri was very agitated, was extremely tense with tightened fists and sometimes had a cold sweat. She was much less responsive than usual and would just stare out the window, her eyes kind of glassy. ...
"We were convinced that he was abusing her, and probably saying cruel, terrible things to her because she would be so upset when he left."
"The Palm Gardens staff, myself included, were just amazed that a 'Do Not Resuscitate' order had been put on Terri’s chart, considering her age and her obvious cognitive awareness of her surroundings."
Carolyn Johnson, a certified nursing assistant who worked at the Sabal Palms nursing home in Largo, said Terri's mistreatment went back to at least 1993.
"During this assignment I took care of Terri Schiavo several times," Johnson said in her own August 2003 affidavit.
"I learned, as part of my training, that there was a family dispute and that the husband, as guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terri. This surprised me, as I did not think a guardian could go against a doctor's orders like that, but I was assured that a guardian could and that this guardian had gone against Terri's doctor's orders."
Johnson recalled: "No one was allowed to just go in and see Terri. Michael had a visitors list. We all knew that we would lose our jobs if we did not do exactly what Michael said to do."
Johnson continued:
"I remember seeing Michael Schiavo only once the entire time I worked at Sabal Palms, but we were all aware that Terri was not to be given any kind of rehabilitative help, per his instructions.
"Once, I wanted to put a cloth in Terri's hand to keep her hand from closing in on itself, but I was not permitted to do this," Johnson said, "as Michael Schiavo considered that to be a form of rehabilitation."
I did not know that...The more I learn about this case, the more I'm convinced that Ms Schiavo is being railroaded into the grave. It's been a long trip, granted, but the intent appears to have been there for a long time.
I apologize for that. I think I confused you with another poster. Until I read further down I didn't realize you were a newbie here at FR. Welcome! We have a vast wealth of information on the many different threads regarding Terri. I have so much that I lose track of where I keep it. So for berating you, I am sorry.
I will try to direct you as quickly as possible to any many sources of information as I can get to you, and hope that others will do the same.
This has been a travesty of justice, and many of us have been scrreaming for the MSM to stop with their lies about Terri's condition, which is widely disputed. Her care all these years is widely disputed. This case will make you cringe at the thought that such a crime has been being perpetrated by her husband, his lawyers, the court (understand that to mean Greer), and the media by standing idle all this time.
Here are some valuable links, I recommend that you bookmark them for future reference.
Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer (August 28, 2003) AKA 1st monster Terri thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971896/posts
Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1010204/posts
Links to interviews with the Schindlers, Michael Schiavo, and others:
http://journals.aol.com/justice1949/JUSTICEFORTERRISCHIAVO/entries/96
Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) December 4, 2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1034124/posts
Felos' book excerpts:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352657/posts?page=2876#2876
Fund for Schiavo's medical care dwindles:
http://www.sptimes.com/News/060301/TampaBay/Fund_for_Schiavo_s_me.shtml
Where is Terri Schiavo's Rehabilitation Money?
http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/euda.htm
Division of Corporations - JERGER & CENTONZE INSURNACE AGENCY, INC.
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=P01000004292&n2=NAMFWD&n3=0000&n4=N&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=JERGERCENTONZE&r5=
HPA's Terri Schindler Schiavo Documents and Links Page
http://www.hospicepatients.org/terri-schindler-schiavo-docs-links-page.html
Michael's testimony side-by-side:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120621/posts?page=261#261
Division of Corporations - THE HOSPICE OF THE FLORIDA SUNCOAST, INC.
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=739288&n2=NAMFWD&n3=0002&n4=N&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=HOSPICEFLORIDASUNCOAST&r5=
The 2004 Florida Statutes - CHAPTER 765 - HEALTH CARE ADVANCE DIRECTIVES
http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0765/ch0765.htm
Thank you for the onslaught of links/information. This is exactly what I was looking for to bring me up to speed.
Michael is a liar. He can lie to a tv audience and not be prosecuted, and he thinks he can lie to a court and not be prosecuted, but I don't think this will be over even if Terri is not saved from this sort of murder.
If nothing else, at least some of those nurses' affadavits could be placed in evidence and that could get real dicey!
THE TERRI SCHIAVO INFORMATION PAGE (post #56)
TERRI COMMUNICATES/MICHAEL SCHAIVO INCONSISTENT TESTIMONY (post #146)
We should be pushing for criminal charges to be heard at a grand jury.
Not lacking faith at all
grieved by treacherous murder
and its precedent
see also the terrific post #162 by ohiaon from florida with many, many links to information/documents.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Could you elaborate? Are you implying that because someone only makes a few bucks an hour that they can't be credible? Please correct me if I am misunderstanding you.
An open question to the attorneys on this thread....If Michael and Terri received a jury award from the malpractice suit, wouldn't there be a record? Further, if money (700K) was awarded to Terri for rehabilitation and nursing care, wouldn't Michael have had to state on the record that he planned to maintain Terri's health and welfare? If so, there should be a transcript of his testimony/deposition. Both would be sworn...either could sink his sudden "rememberance" of Terri wanting not be left on life support. He can't have it both ways...If he stated under oath that she wanted to die, that would have been reflected in the award and transcript. I'd love to see a certified copy of his testimony during the lawsuit.
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT IN AND FOR PINELLAS COUNTY, FLORIDA
CASE NO. 92-939-15
EXCERPT OF JURY TRIAL - TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL RICHARD SCHIAVO
(November 5, 1992)
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Q. Why did you want to learn to be a nurse?
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A. Because I enjoy it and I want to learn more how to take care of Terry.
Q. You're a young man. Your life is ahead of you. Your future is beyond
you. Up the road, when you look up the road, what do you see for yourself?
A. I see myself hopefully finishing school and taking care of my wife.
Q. Where do you want to take care of your wife?
A. I want to bring my wife home.
Q. If you had the resources available to you, if you had the equipment and the
people, would you do that?
A. Yes, I would, in a heartbeat.
Q. How do you feel about being married to Terry now?
A. I feel wonderful. She's my life and I wouldn't trade her for the world.
I believe in my -- I believe in my wedding vows.
Q. What do you mean? You want to take a minute?
A. Yeah.
MR. WOODWORTH: If the Court would let us take a minute.
Q. (BY MR. WOODWORTH:) You okay?
A. Yeah. I'm sorry.
Q. Have -- you said you believe in your wedding vows, what do you
mean by that?
A. I believe in the vows that I took with my wife,
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through sickness, in health, for richer or poorer. I married my wife
because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her.
I'm going to do that.
http://journals.aol.com/justice1949/JUSTICEFORTERRISCHIAVO/entries/323
they did submit the affidavits...but the Judge threw them out....don't ask me why....
What's wrong with Bishop Lynch? First guess, pride. He should recognize it but apparently not.
Secondly, there are allegations that he is involved somehow with one of those sex-scandal deals that are plagueing the Church right now.
Then you can "play" lawyer for the opposition all you like.
Right now you appear to be only supporting Micheal's views.
....let us enlighten you with knowledge...when you submit affidavits, sir, you are swearing that the contents and representations therein ARE TRUE under penalties of perjury (which means prison). Get it now?
Supporting Michael's views? When and where?
Yep! That's one that Michael had taken of her when he was going before the malpractice jury. In THAT courtroom, Terri was making GREAT progress! Too bad she stopped as soon as the $$$ came in! < /sarcasm>
Yea..didn't think you had any "mock" debate with views that don't support Micheal or you would have posted them already.
Forgive me, I'm also trying to get up to speed...is this from the lawsuit..if so..Michael's got a whole lot of 'splaining to do.
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