Let's not forget: Terri is being executed by authority of Jeb Bush

RenewAmerica.US ^ | March 22, 2005 | RenewAmerica Staff

[MTOrlando]

We talk about "slippery slopes" for many things on this forum. Calling in the National Guard for one woman when the courts have ruled wouldn't be a slope, it'd be a cliff. Do you want to set a precedent like this, especially given how future democRATs can distort it for their aims?

The real slippery slope is allowing the judiciary to claim a position as the highest legal authority in the Republic. If the executive branch fails to act to uphold the state constitution and the rights expressed therein, where does that leave us?

[WL-law]

Sorry -- I meant to write: "So -- if there is a credible basis to investigate whether Michael Shiavo has a material conflict of interest -- the EXECUTIVE branch can investigate."

[HighlyOpinionated]

IT IS TIME TO ROLL.

IT IS TIME FOR AN EASTER MIRACLE.

IT IS TIME FOR GOVERNOR BUSH TO CALL IN THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD.

IT IS TIME FOR PRESIDENT BUSH TO CALL IN THE US MARSHALLS.

TERRI SCHAIVO IS A US CITIZEN.

TERRI SCHAIVO IS ENTITLED TO LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

Even if in that pursuit of her own happiness it screws up her POS faux-husband's pursuit of some 'skirt.'

[MTOrlando]

Right. And Gov. Bush is enforcing the judgment of the judiciary. He has no legal power to do anything else.

The Governor is not required to enforce the judgment of the judiciary. The state constitution requires that "the governor shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed".

[zippee]

Poor Jeb...he gets blamed for everything.....

[sandbar]

>>>Ahhh, yes. It always come back around to "it's the Republicans' fault.">>>

In this case, it is. I expect stupidity from the Democrats, not from the Bush family.

[wolfpat]

The real slippery slope is allowing the judiciary to claim a position as the highest legal authority in the Republic.
We've been on that slope for about 20 years. The short term solution to that is to start replacing the activist judges with Constitutional judges. We can't do that until the Republicans in the US Senate get some cajones(sp?). The long term solution is a Constitutional amendment to make judicial activism illegal.

[DCPatriot]

HighlyOpinionated....

Highly delusional too, it would appear.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"It's not the pardon that's so legally offensive. It's the promise of a pardon beforehand. If a pardon were given to someone who aided her after the fact, that would be a different story."

It would be, indeed, joyous. Hey! A lady was arrested for trying to bring her water already! If she were pardoned, albeit prior to conviction, then the same goal has been attained.

I would recommend a statement, however:

"Since no one was harmed while she tried to save a human life..."

FReegards....

[MTOrlando]

We've been on that slope for about 20 years. The short term solution to that is to start replacing the activist judges with Constitutional judges.

A few years ago they told me the short-term solution was to elect a Republican Governor, a Republican Legislature, a Republican Congress, and a Republican President. We've done all that, yet nothing has changed.

At this point, the "short term" solution is for all of the Republicans we've elected to stand up and fight to take back the constitutional authority of their offices.

We can't do that until the Republicans in the US Senate get some cajones(sp?). The long term solution is a Constitutional amendment to make judicial activism illegal.

If they can't stop this judicially ordered execution, the rest will be meaningless. What will prevent the existing activist judges from simply ruling that all of the new appointees were "improperly appointed" and therefore are not members of the judiciary?

The problem here is not "bad judges", and we can't resolve it by simply replacing them. The problem is the judicial branch of government has persistently put itself above the other two branches, and declared itself the sole authority in matters of law and the constitutions. The only solution is for the judicial branch to be kicked back into line by the other branches, and that will only happen when true statesman in the executive branch starts to exercise authority.

[My Favorite Headache]

This is TOTAL CRAP. The Bush brothers have done everything they possibly can and have made efforts I never expected them to make. I for one am VERY pleased with what they have done up to this point.

[wolfpat]

If Bill Clinton had done what you're advocating President Bush and Governor Bush should do, I'd immediately be on the road to him to make a citizen's arrest for sedition.

[My Favorite Headache]

Exactly. This entire issue (which has been going on for years and years mind you down here in Florida)is all about JUDGES. Not the President and not the Governor.

People need to buy some clues and pay attention to who they vote for when it comes to judges next election cycle. This blame Bush crowd is total crap and FR is just exploding at the seams.

[Coop]

In this case, it is.

Baloney

[MineralMan]

"Why are there not a million people in the street?"

Keep asking yourself that question. Eventually you'll come up with an answer. I can give you a hint, but I'm sure you can come up with an answer on your own.

How many people are standing, right now, outside the hospice to protest what's going on there? How many people are willing even to do that?

You're conflating your own personal feelings regarding this matter with the feelings of everyone else. There is a reason that millions aren't hitting the street. There is a reason that even thousands are not hitting the street. When you understand those reasons, you will understand our Constitutional republic.

[MTOrlando]

If Bill Clinton had done what you're advocating President Bush and Governor Bush should do, I'd immediately be on the road to him to make a citizen's arrest for sedition.

Really? Why didn't you then, when he sent in the troops to grab Elian?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Whoever wrote this has absolutely zero understanding of the Separation of Powers Doctrine.

By this twisted logic, George W. Bush would be personally responsible for every abortion in America.

Exactly...and the source is certainly interesting.

I want this woman to live, but people have gone around the bend on this one. It's way past hysterical.

[watchdog_writer]

           Whereas I share your hope that Terri will be spared the tragedy of being starved to death, I do not share your opinion that Governor Bush is responsible.

          In my opinion, Terri’s life is in danger because Pamela Campbell, failed. Ms. Campbell was the attorney who represented Terri’s parents in trial. See: Pamela A.M. Campbell, Esq. lost the Terri Schiavo trial.

          The courts did not disregard the legislature on a “pretext” of separation of powers, they did what they have been doing for the past 100 years, and they held that Terri’s Law was unconstitutional.

          What is the legal authority for the Governor to intervene? You make emotional pleas for action from the Governor. You state that his is complicit. You suggest that only the executive branch has the authority to kill Terri, which is simply ridiculous, and you can not cite one legal authority for that proposition, because it doesn’t exist. The executive is not putting Terri to death, doctors are allowing her to die by starvation under the lawful order of a court of competent jurisdiction.

          I do not agree with the judgment of the court in this case based upon the facts that have been brought to light since Ms. Campbell tried this case before Judge Greer. At the time of the trial if Ms. Campbell had offered the proofs we now know exist, perhaps the outcome would have been different. The St. Petersburg Bar Association website has laudatory comments about Ms. Campbell. If you would like to see how happy they are with her see: http://www.stpetebar.com/index_frame.htm?http://www.stpetebar.com/v3_giv_campbell.htm

          Police are at the scene because we are a nation of laws and law-abiding people. They are there to see to it that a lawful court order is carried out. If Ms. Campbell had not lost the case, the police would be there to assure that no one harmed Terri.

          The real problem in all of this is that no judge should decide upon the life or death of a person, that decision should be in the hands of a jury. In that way politics, graft, fraud, and special interest considerations are taken out of the hands of one judge.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

This was written by Alan Keyes' staff, was it? It appears on his own website, so it apparently has Keyes' approval?

Just want to be clear on that.

[Churchillspirit]

Excellent points.