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GOP Getting Ready For 'Nuclear Option' To Confirm Judges
Investor's Business Daily ^ | March 22, 2005 | Brian Mitchell

Posted on 03/22/2005 9:11:25 AM PST by MisterRepublican

The alarm came just in time for the usual round of fund raising during Easter recess: Republicans want to change the rules to confirm judges, but Democrats stand ready to stop them by shutting down the Senate.

But last week's shutdown threat wasn't just a money raiser. Democrats really are ready for a Senate shutdown, and Republicans really are just about ready to change the rules.

Senate rules require 60 votes to end debate on most issues. That means the minority party can kill a nomination with just 41 votes. All the minority needs is enough senators to filibuster, saying they won't vote for cloture.

The filibuster has been a fact of life in the Senate for more than 200 years. But with federal courts deciding more and more issues, judicial nominations have become more and more political.

The Supreme Court's recent decision banning execution of underage murderers only added to Republican impatience with judicial filibusters.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; judicialnominees; nuclearoption; ussenate
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To: mware
I agree, but I also fear for the state of the nation if it comes down to this.

There is no more divisive a subject that politics, other than religion. IF this happens, it will further polarize the electorate.

21 posted on 03/22/2005 9:42:12 AM PST by pctech
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To: MisterRepublican
CNN.com - Democrats begin filibuster against Estrada - Feb. 13, 2003

CNN.com - Estrada withdraws as judicial nominee - Sep. 4, 2003


February 13, 2003 to February 12, 2004 = 365 days of Frist's impotence

February 13, 2003 to February 12, 2005 = 366 days of Frist's impotence
[February 2004 was not a leap year]

February 13, 2005 to March 22, 2005 = 36 days of Frist's impotence

So far, Frist's impotence has continued 767 days.

How many more???
22 posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:07 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Unfortunately, that is doubtful. The Repubs have proven over and over that they have no backbone when it REALLY comes down.

Now, I pray I am proven wrong.


23 posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:42 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: MisterRepublican
The filibuster has been a fact of life in the Senate for more than 200 years

The House once had similar rules as the Senate now does. They changed them over well 100 years ago. It didn't cause the implosion of the Republic, neither will changing the Senate rules so that the majority actually will be able to rule.

24 posted on 03/22/2005 9:47:01 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: MisterRepublican

...talk is cheap...just do it.


25 posted on 03/22/2005 9:47:33 AM PST by smiley
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To: WakeUpAndVote

What changed is that the Senate decided that 41 votes against cloture was enough to prevent consideration of a measure, and that the Senate would simply do other business without actually holding the 'debate'.

Making them do it the old-fashioned way would also let Frist et al. be seen lamenting how the Democrats are preventing the Senate from doing anything because they won't allow an up or down vote on the judicial nomination.


26 posted on 03/22/2005 9:48:32 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will understand. . .)
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To: pctech
You know I never understood the judging of a successfull congressional session is based on how many laws they have passed.

Laws for the sake of making laws... makes no sense

I think we need to judge 'em on how many laws they take OFF the books

27 posted on 03/22/2005 9:49:57 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: MisterRepublican

If anyone shut down the senate, would we even notice?


28 posted on 03/22/2005 9:51:27 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: MisterRepublican

I reiterate my wager, made in a previous thread, that no one took me up on. I will offer 10-1 odds, up to $100 (proceeds to be donated to FR by the loser in the name of the winner) that the Pubs don't have the sack for this.


29 posted on 03/22/2005 9:55:48 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: MisterRepublican

Republicans should stop calling this the "nuclear option" and start calling it the Constitutional Option". Nowhere does it say the President needs a 2/3 majority for appointments of judges.

...and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.


30 posted on 03/22/2005 9:56:22 AM PST by sheana
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To: mware

DO SO AGREE GO NUCLEAR! Bush erred by NOT removing EVERY crooked Judge that "unusually good Liar" placed on the bench. The stench from the bench is unbearable. The unjust Judges who mandate Death in a mannor that American Courts
would NOT ever allow for a convicted mass murderer is clear
evidence we need Judges who honor th eRule of Law and do not seek to create new "fundamental "rights like that granted an adulterous and wicked Liar who pretends he loves and is married to Terri -while humping and jumpin with another at risk woman these past ten years.


31 posted on 03/22/2005 10:00:02 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: TheBattman
I would feel better if this were being said by a group other than the political equivalent of Lou Costello.
32 posted on 03/22/2005 10:00:27 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: grobdriver
Exactly. The Republicans in Washington are weak and have no spine. There is no doubt in my mind that if the show was on the other foot the Dems would do this in a heartbeat! Our party leadership is always suckered in by the perceived good intentions of the democrats, never realizing that their good will is being exploited. Why do Republicans have to play nice and appease the other side, when the Dems are ruthless and play hardball...?
The only thin I admire about the dems is their ability to continually stick it to the opposition.
33 posted on 03/22/2005 10:07:50 AM PST by matymac (I'm saved...are you...?)
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To: The_Reader_David

And let that old coot Byrd pee in his pants.


34 posted on 03/22/2005 10:15:29 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: MisterRepublican
How many articles have been written just like this? The republicans are ready .. I mean it ... we're going to do it ... seriously .. we are .. Yeah right, when it happens I'll believe it. I don't think Frist has the stones to do it.
35 posted on 03/22/2005 10:31:21 AM PST by IrishGOP (God bless and save Terri)
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To: NormsRevenge
OH Please Please Please, democWaps,, Shut down the Senate,, Please Please Please!!! (/evil grin) :)

Pretty please with sugar and a W-53 warhead on top.

36 posted on 03/22/2005 11:11:00 AM PST by steveegg (Let the DemonRATs eat gridlock. Nuke 'em, Frist.)
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To: massgopguy
The Dems can't shut down the Senate. Only a count of 51 comprises the quorum needed to conduct business.

If they are blocked from filibustering judicial nominees, the Democrats are threatening to filibuster everything else. Deny cloture to every single bill that comes up.

We should be so lucky.

37 posted on 03/22/2005 11:19:06 AM PST by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: MisterRepublican

ok now what happens if we go nuclear. Does this mean that it stays nuclear indefinitely or is there a time limit? I mean lets say Dems retake the senate in 2-6 years will we be ramrodded here or what?


38 posted on 03/22/2005 11:21:07 AM PST by DM1
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To: DM1
ok now what happens if we go nuclear. Does this mean that it stays nuclear indefinitely or is there a time limit? I mean lets say Dems retake the senate in 2-6 years will we be ramrodded here or what?

The DemonRATs, should they ever retake control, will ramrod us no matter what happens now.

39 posted on 03/22/2005 11:28:48 AM PST by steveegg (Let the DemonRATs eat gridlock. Nuke 'em, Frist.)
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To: mware

For sure.


40 posted on 03/22/2005 12:12:40 PM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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