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To: northernlightsII
I know Sean said about 37 times that the guy is a "Nobel Prize nominee." What Sean didn't say is that the entire sum and substance of that claim is that a friend of Hammesfahr who is not a doctor or a scientist - he is a lawyer - sent a letter to the Nobel committee "nominating" Hammesfahr. Neither the Nobel committee nor anyone in the medical or scientific community has recognized Hammesfahr in this way.

If the guy - and commentators - feel the need to continually push this kind of crap credential, what does that indicate about the rest of what Hammesfahr has to say?

548 posted on 03/22/2005 8:32:23 AM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
If the guy - and commentators - feel the need to continually push this kind of crap credential, what does that indicate about the rest of what Hammesfahr has to say?

I would agree that just the fact that he was a Nobel prize nominee should not add much more weight to his credentials. But honestly, while I have seen numerous people belittle this doctor, no one that I have seen offered a shread of evidence as to why he should be so roundly denounced. I have seen news footage of his successes from a news channel, and have read testimony of his patients. But I have not had anyone point me to any information that backs up the claim that he is not worthy of consideration of credentials.
574 posted on 03/22/2005 8:41:14 AM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: lugsoul

Someone posted his credentials on another thread last night,they are extensive and impressive.
By the way I doubt your little nomination story.
I am sure it involves more then writing your own letter to the Nobel Prize Committee otherwise you would have thousands upon thousands of same running around.


582 posted on 03/22/2005 8:44:15 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: lugsoul

Oh well, if he'd won the Nobel prize, then he'd have been in the good company of those great statesmen Arafat and Jimmy Carter. LOL


670 posted on 03/22/2005 9:12:19 AM PST by penowa
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To: lugsoul

If you would investigate the documents of the congressman who nominated Dr. Hammesfahr for the work he has done in these types of patients - you would know.

A Florida State judge reviewed the accusations and evidence and ruled that Dr. Hammesfahr was not guilty of quackery - But - instead praise the work he was doing.

Medicare approved of his methods (they must have done some reviewing of his claims in order to allow him to work with them) - the State of Florida has still not closed him down - They must have reviewed him and allowed him to Continue practicing medicine!

Some people - in spite of evidence - will continue on their opinion -


Here is some information on what was found by the first doctors who examined Terri. It is their observations that make this case so chilling - aparently - Judge Greer overlooked these medical findings in making his decisions about Terri.

Date Source Description

2/25/1990 Terri's Injury

2/25/1990 X-Ray Report Dr. Hameroff

Images taken of cervical spine, no acute bony pathology - straightening of normal cervical lordosis


2/25/1990 Neuro Consult Dr. DeSousa

Deeply comatose. No evidence of acute process in CT scan. Evidence of myoclonic seizures.

Rule out acute myocardiac infarction, seizures as cause.

Neck is somewhat stiff as is all of the muscles of the body. No jugular venous distension.

WBC 26,300, drug screen negative


(To those that say she was using drugs for her "bulimia" -it says that she was clear.

And to those that say she had a heart attack - it says there was NO myocardiac infarction - an interruption in the supply of blood to the heart, usually as a result of occlusion of a coronary artery. An occlusion IS a heart attack!)


(To See the Rest of the Medical Observations by doctors and staff)

http://www.theempirejournal.com/02230551_medical_observations_sh.htm


673 posted on 03/22/2005 9:13:35 AM PST by Anita1
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