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To: seamus
When principle dovetails with policy and politics -- and the right thing is done in the end -- it is not a vice. Don't be so naive? You, sir. Don't be so cynical.

I am cynical. If the Republicans really cared about TS, this would have been done six weeks ago, or two months ago.

Tom DeLay waited until zero hour, with maximum media exposure, to trot out this bill.

1,266 posted on 03/20/2005 8:41:40 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur

no I think it was politicians hopin g they would not have to act and that the courts would or some miracle would save their posteriors from making this decision.


1,280 posted on 03/20/2005 8:42:45 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: sinkspur
Tom DeLay waited until zero hour, with maximum media exposure, to trot out this bill.

You got to strike when the fire is hot.

Also he rightfuly waited for the Florida legislature to do the right thing.

1,281 posted on 03/20/2005 8:42:46 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Abortion, euthenasia, socialized medice, don't Democrats just kill you.....)
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To: sinkspur

According to the poll I saw, most Americans favor putting Terri to death, so the Republicans seem to gain nothing from this, other than doing the right thing.


1,286 posted on 03/20/2005 8:43:27 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: sinkspur
I am cynical. If the Republicans really cared about TS, this would have been done six weeks ago, or two months ago

I don't know that he would have had the support...state options had to be exhausted.

1,307 posted on 03/20/2005 8:44:56 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: sinkspur

By that logic I would have been active in defense of terri's life months ago. years ago. I wasn't. I am now. Are you going to say I don't care? Because I assure you I DO.


1,311 posted on 03/20/2005 8:45:08 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: sinkspur
Tom DeLay waited until zero hour, with maximum media exposure, to trot out this bill.

Or he was waiting to see if the FL courts did the right thing so as to not require the involvement of Congress. Since they didn't do the right thing, he was forced to act.
1,320 posted on 03/20/2005 8:45:52 PM PST by hispanichoosier
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To: sinkspur
Tom DeLay waited until zero hour, with maximum media exposure, to trot out this bill.

They should have brought it forward sooner. But I'm not sure that's what you're saying. Somehow, I get the impression you're saying they shouldn't have brought it forward at all.

1,333 posted on 03/20/2005 8:47:10 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: sinkspur
sink, you for or against starving her?

Yes or no?

1,359 posted on 03/20/2005 8:49:11 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: sinkspur
I am cynical.

Yes, and it's not one of your more endearing characteristics.

It's amazing to me that you're blaming the Republicans for any of this when if not for Democrat obstructionism, this could have been wrapped up and done on Thursday of last week.
1,376 posted on 03/20/2005 8:50:29 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: sinkspur
again, sink

You for or against starving her?

1,388 posted on 03/20/2005 8:51:37 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: sinkspur

I do not like saying this,but you are hopelessly cynical,negative,and if you did not claim to be catholic I would have guessed atheist. It is not my business what you are,this is my impression from you posts and commentary. Years ago, I would have never felt this way,you were very different then. No offense...


1,823 posted on 03/20/2005 9:22:33 PM PST by samantha (don't panic the adults are in charge)
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To: sinkspur
I am cynical.

If you are this cynical, perhaps you should see a doctor. Or, better yet, a priest.

As for another point you made that Congress does not make laws for individuals, you are very wrong. Here is a list of "private bills" for individuals that have been passed by Congress since James Sensenbrenner has been chairman of the Judiciary Committee (in fact, more than 25 "private bills" for the benefit of a single individual were introduced when the Democrats last controlled the house in the 103rd Congress):

H.R.867 Title: Private Bill; For the relief of Durreshahwar Durreshahwar, Nida Hasan, Asna Hasan, Anum Hasan, and Iqra Hasan. Sponsor: Rep Holt, Rush D. [D-NJ-12] (introduced 2/13/2003) Committees: House Judiciary; Senate Judiciary House Reports: 108-531 Latest Major Action: 10/30/2004 Became Private Law No: 108-4.

H.R.530 Title: Private Bill; For the relief of Tanya Andrea Goudeau. Sponsor: Rep Baker, Richard H. [R-LA-6] (introduced 2/4/2003) Committees: House Judiciary; Senate Judiciary House Reports: 108-529 Latest Major Action: 12/23/2004 Became Private Law No: 108-6.

S.560 Title: Private Bill; A bill for the relief of Rita Mirembe Revell (a.k.a. Margaret Rita Mirembe). Sponsor: Sen Hatch, Orrin G. [R-UT] (introduced 3/19/2001) Committees: Senate Judiciary; House Judiciary House Reports: 107-129 Latest Major Action: 7/17/2001 Became Private Law No: 107-1.

S.1834 Title: Private Bill; A bill for the relief of retired Sergeant First Class James D. Benoit and Wan Sook Benoit. Sponsor: Sen Levin, Carl [D-MI] (introduced 12/14/2001) Cosponsors: (none) Committees: Senate Judiciary; House Judiciary House Reports: 107-578 Latest Major Action: 10/1/2002 Became Private Law No: 107-2.

H.R.486 Title: Private Bill; For the relief of Barbara Makuch. Sponsor: Rep Reynolds, Thomas M. [R-NY-27] (introduced 2/6/2001) Cosponsors: (none) Committees: House Judiciary; Senate Judiciary House Reports: 107-445 Latest Major Action: 10/4/2002 Became Private Law No: 107-3.

H.R.487 Title: Private Bill; For the relief of Eugene Makuch. Sponsor: Rep Reynolds, Thomas M. [R-NY-27] (introduced 2/6/2001) Cosponsors: (none) Committees: House Judiciary; Senate Judiciary House Reports: 107-446 Latest Major Action: 10/4/2002 Became Private Law No: 107-4.

H.R.2245 Title: Private Bill; For the relief of Anisha Goveas Foti. Sponsor: Rep Lantos, Tom [D-CA-12] (introduced 6/19/2001) Committees: House Judiciary; Senate Judiciary House Reports: 107-579 Latest Major Action: 11/5/2002 Became Private Law No: 107-5.

H.R.3758 Major Actions: Help Title: Private Bill; For the relief of So Hyun Jun. Sponsor: Rep McCrery, Jim [R-LA-4] (introduced 2/13/2002) Committees: House Judiciary House Reports: 107-729 Latest Major Action: 12/2/2002 Became Private Law No: 107-6.

To take just one of the bills -- and you can do your own research on Thomas.gov -- Barbara Makuch was awarded $1 million from the federal treasury because she claimed that she was denied benefits warranted to her as an employee of the FBI. Oh, and her husband was given $1 million, too.

You have neither the moral argument, or the facts on your side. Please, give it a rest.

1,900 posted on 03/20/2005 9:27:05 PM PST by seamus
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