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Feeding Tube Being Removed: Greer Gives Order
MSNBC

Posted on 03/18/2005 10:41:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Greer gives order


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; culturewar; deathpenaltycase; eugenics; fuhrergreer; godhavemercy; greerisanazi; greerusurper; lifevsdeath; michaellies; nocerebralcortex; parentsrights; saveterri; saveterriorg; schiavo; secularhumanism; stopkilers; terri; terriisalive; terrischiavo
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To: vishnu6
"If God wants her to live he will let her live."

And vice-versa.

441 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:11 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Handshakes can cause the spread of disease. Be considerate--sniff my butt.)
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To: Noah_Si al_178?

So Terri's life is not worth living? Smiling and talking, yes, talking with her parents is not worth it? Laughing is not worth living for? She does all these things. Why do you want to KILL this life she has?


442 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:11 AM PST by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: RightWhale

No they will begin with petitions like the links that are allready started for the ouster of Judge Greer.

Until we get the Clintonite Judges out we will have
hijacks of the laws.
Ops4 God Bless America!


443 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:17 AM PST by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: All

Contact Gov. Bush immediately to call out the National Guard to prevent the local authorities from having to follow the Judges orders. Terri has the right to life guaranteed by the FL Constitution, and the Judge has no authority to deprive her of it under the circumstances.

FL Statutes allow the Gov. to use the NG to enforce state laws, including when there is resistance to or the inability to enforce them at the local level. (A natural disaster is just one reason he can call out the guard -- it's not the only reason.)

He has full legal authority to use this option. How many troops does the judge have? NONE!

CALL NOW!!!


444 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:21 AM PST by 1stFreedom (1)
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To: All; Scoop 1; phenn; pc93; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; Orlando; tutstar; cyn; STARWISE; ...

Spurning Congress, judge authorizes removal of Schiavo feeding tube

ABC Action News report 03/18/05 - updated 2:15 p.m.

PINELLAS PARK - A Pinellas County judge ruled this afternoon that Terri Schiavo's feeding tube can be removed as planned, thwarting congressional efforts to delay the brain-damaged woman's death.

The decision came after both the Senate Health Committee and the House Committee on Government Reform subpoenaed Terri to testify before Congress next week, a move Circuit Court Judge George Greer dismissed as nothing more than a stall tactic.

"I have had no cogent reason why the committee should intervene," he told attorneys in a conference call, adding that last-minute action by Congress does not invalidate years of court rulings and dismissing the proposed testimony as a "field trip."

It was not immediately clear when the feeding tube would be removed. Republicans in Congress planned an immediate appeal.

If it is allowed to stand, this latest twist in the long-running right-to-die saga would likely be the last. Terri has been in a persistent vegetative state since a 1990 heart attack, dependant on a feeing tube for nutrition and hydration. Courts have ruled that she has no chance of recovery, prompting her husband Michael to push for the tube's removal.



David Gibbs speaks this morning, flanked by activist Randall Terry and Terri Schiavo's sister.
Terri's family, however, disputes doctors' findings, as well as Michael's claims that his wife would not want to live in such a condition. They have waged a lengthy but ultimately unsuccessful court battle, which culminated with today's court-mandated deadline.

Terri's medical staff, husband, and the judge in case were also asked to appear before Congress in subpoenas delivered Friday morning. For several hours, it was not clear what effect the move would have on the deadline previously set by Judge Greer for the tube's removal because anyone interfering with Terri's ability to appear before legislators could potentially face contempt of Congress and other federal charges.

The attorney for the family, David Gibbs III, conceded that the legal picture was still muddy, but he was hopeful that it would buy time for Terri, if nothing else.

"There are obviously some interesting federalism issues here," Gibbs said, suggesting federal courts would eventually resolve the questions. "Any action to end Terri's life until it's sorted out would be inappropriate."

In addition to the congressional developments, the family was also hoping that a morning filing for a temporary injunction in federal court would reward them with a stay. It was their only other option after state legislators adjourned Friday.



Michael and Terri Schiavo, as seen in their wedding video.
In 2003, supporters of Terri's family were successful in getting the state Legislature to give Gov. Jeb Bush the power to intervene in the case, an act that was later ruled unconstitutional.

With that experience still fresh in their minds, state legislators were less enthusiastic about intervening again. The Florida House earlier this week passed a sweeping bill that would have prevented the feeding tube's removal, but the state Senate could not pass a compatible version of the bill Thursday and adjourned Friday morning after just a few more minutes of debate.

"I warned you. My conscience is clear. The consequences remain," bill sponsor Sen. Dan Webster told his colleagues.

Back in Pinellas Park, Terri's family was visiting with her at the hospice where she lives, but they declined to speak at a morning press conference. Several protestors from various right-to-life groups were rallying outside the hospice, encouraged by activist Randall Terry.

There was no word this morning from Michael Schiavo or his attorney, George Felos, who previously indicated that they had been planning to remove the feeding tube as ordered at 1 p.m.

If and when the tube is pulled, doctors believe it will take Terri one to two weeks to die.

Action News has several reporters on this story today, monitoring developments in Tallahassee, D.C., and Pinellas Park. We'll have updates throughout the afternoon as things happen.

http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/2005/03/050318schiavo.shtml


445 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:21 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: Warren_Piece
I understood it perfectly.

I trust my reference to Rosa Parks was just as clear.

446 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:28 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: bigeasy_70118

BTTT


447 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:33 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Samwise
I have a couple of questions...since Michael has been living with this girl friend for all this time are they considered common law and if so, is he a bigamist? If so, can he control her fate?
448 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:40 AM PST by 4everontheRight ( "I'm learning to dread one day at a time" --- Charlie Brown)
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To: Noah_Si al_178?
A fetus is only temporarily in a vegatative state with a feeding tube.

And will grow up to a self-sustaining adult with proper care. And I know of two very eager volunteer caregivers for Ms. Schiavo.

449 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:40 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I might argue over 'extraordinary measures of survival' since new research can make problems recoverable that were not before. However this is a case where she is being denied OLD technology and PROVEN therapy techniques that could help her. This is no where near that grey area or fuzzy line that is 'extraordinary measures of survival' so on this we are in total agreement.
450 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:50 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: nina0113

Can someone explain exactly how this "husband" has "ordered" that no one can spoon feed Terri, no one can give her flowers or balloons and "they" must keep the drapes closed and no one can take her outside??? How does he get this power?


451 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:53 AM PST by sarasota
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To: bigeasy_70118

Given that it is contempt to interfer with the subpoena can US Marshalls interven to keep her in protective custody - perhaps like they did in the Ellian Gonzalez case there in Florida?


452 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:54 AM PST by appropos
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
She is a human being, and is entitled to all the rights, and protection that the rest of us are..

****************

Agreed.

453 posted on 03/18/2005 11:30:58 AM PST by trisham ((proudly jackbooted and pajama clad!))
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To: tort_feasor

"The federal issue is can a state judge issue an order which will lead to the death of a witness who is subpoenaed by congress."

I have not looked at the ruling -- but as I understand it, all he has ruled is that under Florida law, the husband may make the determination of extraordinary measures in the absence of a medical directive. By doing so, he has directed the hospital follow the husband's instructions.

I don't know if he has gone so far as to quash the subpeona. (I think a Federal Judge would have to quash the subpeona.) But, what he has said, and what he has the right to say -- is that the subpoena does not qualify as a stay, and that Feds are without juridiction to stay the action -- without legislation.

The long and short of it is, they could pull the feeding tube -- but she could still be subject to appearing before Congress, if she lives long enough, under that subpoena.

I never paid much attention to this case -- but I am waiting to see what move is next.


454 posted on 03/18/2005 11:31:04 AM PST by Iron Eagle
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To: oceanperch
G-TUBE HAS BEEN ORDERED TO STAY PER CNN REPORTS

Can you kindly explain this statement?

455 posted on 03/18/2005 11:31:05 AM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone, but time is running out.)
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To: oceanperch
FEDS ARE TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF THE FLORDA JUDGE TO TELL HIM NO AND HE CAN'T BE FOUND...

I'd like to know why he couldn't be found at the beginning of this thread, then he suddenly appears to order the feeding tube removed immediately, and now he can't be found again.

-PJ

456 posted on 03/18/2005 11:31:07 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Pyro7480

On we go!!!


457 posted on 03/18/2005 11:31:10 AM PST by mjtobias (Praying for Terri.)
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To: oceanperch

Thanks so much for the update. I've been searching the other MSM for this info and no one has it. My heart is in my throat waiting for some miracle!


458 posted on 03/18/2005 11:31:13 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: dandelion

Ping


459 posted on 03/18/2005 11:31:15 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: MonroeDNA
When folks think it's "good" for judges to pass death sentences on the disabled, it's beneficial to know where those folks are coming from. Your bragged-about superior IQ (166!) then becomes a part of the equation. You posted your IQ, inventions etc on Free Republic, are you now ashamed of them? Is it "stalking" to mention what YOU have posted on FR?

I would not let my mother endure 15 years of bedsores. With proper care, she would not get bedsores.

Bedsores are a result of negligent care, perhaps the result of the husband's order to provide the bare minimum of care, as in this case?

460 posted on 03/18/2005 11:31:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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