Posted on 03/18/2005 10:41:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
Greer gives order
Get the facts before you post, moron.
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I think maybe you meant to type moroff !!! ;-))
The big question is that no one is asking is why Michael wants her dead..
So can the Feds take her into protective custody?
Cold blooded , callous and cruel MURDER!
Then go back to Freeping. Stay off these threads...
And I remember old Abe had something to say about that.
I think you are correct.
I don't recall anyone attempting to remove her sustenance.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
My Dred Scott comment was to those who say "the courts agree with me therefore I am right". It's the FR equivalent of "Because I said so"
One of the attorney's who visited Terri on Christmas Eve.
You know, I never really cared about Terry. I never disliked her husband, although I don’t know much of him, and I suspected Terry would want to die. But I don’t like unelected judges acting as if they can “override” the judiciary and the executive. It’s two against one.
I don’t think that I’m alone in this. I think this turns off a larger porting of people who support greater rights to die. I think this will backfire and is an opportunity for Jeb to intervene with state police, at least until legislation is complete after congressional recess.
Who was it, Jefferson?, that said something like 'I'm aware of the judges order, now let him enforce it.'?
Greer's mistake was to accept such hearsay. His pride will not allow him to change his ruling.
There is a very important legal principle that must be reinforced by this case - if this goes forward, a precedent will be established that if one is incapacitated, the grounds for having one's plug pulled will be lessened substantially - only hearsay, a memory of a verbal say-so will be deemed to be sufficient for yanking the tube. That is extremely dangerous.
Regards, Ivan
in other news, a group plans to save wild mustangs from slaughter. why mustangs, and not terry schiavo? this is the most evil form of irony.
Absolutely right. I hope this case is the beginning of the end of judicial tyranny.
BC-Brain-Damaged Woman, 11th Ld-Writethru,0800
Judge orders removal of feeding tube for brain-damaged Florida woman, despite Congress' effort
Eds: UPDATES with attorneys vowing to appeal, adds quote from judge, CORRECTS that judge said tube must, sted can be removed; restores background.
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By MITCH STACY
Associated Press Writer
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) -- The presiding judge in the case of Terri Schiavo ruled Friday that the feeding tube keeping the brain-damaged woman alive must be removed despite efforts by congressional Republicans to block the move by seeking her appearance at hearings.
Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer refused a request from U.S. House attorneys to delay the removal, which he had previously ordered to take place at 1 p.m. EST. Greer determined that it should go forward about an hour after another judge issued a temporary delay blocking the tube's removal.
"I have had no cogent reason why the (congressional) committee should intervene," Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer told attorneys in a conference call, adding that last-minute action by Congress does not invalidate years of court rulings.
There was no immediate word on when the tube might be removed. Attorneys seeking to block the removal vowed to appeal.
Pinellas Circuit Court Chief Judge David Demers had earlier ordered that the feeding tube remain in place past the 1 p.m. deadline while Greer dealt with conflicting legal issues.
Michael Schiavo has waged a yearslong court battle with his parents-in-law, contending his wife, who doctors say has been in a persistent vegetative state since 1990, would not want to live that way.
The tube has been removed twice in the past and then reinserted as the battle continued.
Friday's ruling came after U.S. Senate and House committees in the Republican-controlled Congress issued subpoenas for Schiavo, her husband, Michael Schiavo, and her caregivers to appear at hearings on March 25 and March 28, which would in effect keep her alive for the time being.
The Pinellas Park hospice where Schiavo lives received a subpoena late Friday morning, spokeswoman Louise Cleary said. Officials there did not say who was subpoenaed or disclose their next steps.
"It is a contempt of Congress to prevent or discourage someone from following the subpoena that's been issued," David Gibbs, the attorney for her parents, said Friday morning. "What the U.S. Congress is saying is, `We want to see Terri Schiavo."'
"The family is prayerfully excited about their daughter going before the United States Congress for the whole world to see how alive she is."
Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Florida office, had said Friday morning that his group's attorneys were working with Michael Schiavo's attorneys to determine the effect of the subpoenas.
"This is clearly an effort to circumvent a lawful court order by a state judge," Simon said. "I am not sure how a subpoena, which is ordinarily done to produce records or somebody to testify, can essentially have the effect of an injunction overriding the orders of a court."
Terri Schiavo's father, Bob Schindler, went into the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park at about 9:30 a.m. to visit his daughter. Outside, about three dozen people prayed and wept.
"What can wash away our sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus," they sang. Messages on protest signs included "Impeach Greer.com," a reference to the judge, and "Execution -- It's Not Just for the Guilty Anymore."
As part of the last-minute flurry of activity, the Florida judge who approved the withdrawal of the feeding tube denied a request from the state to keep her alive. The state appealed that decision to the Florida Supreme Court, which promptly dismissed it. The U.S. Supreme Court also denied another appeal.
In Tallahassee, the Florida House on Thursday passed a bill 78-37 to block the withholding of food and water from patients in a persistent vegetative state who did not leave specific instructions regarding their care. But hours later, the Senate defeated a different measure 21-16. The sponsor of another state Senate didn't bring it for a vote because it didn't have enough support.
Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 when her heart stopped because of a chemical imbalance, and court-appointed doctors say she is in a persistent vegetative state. Her husband says she told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that, and say she could get better.
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I've been wondering about that too. Does he get some insurance money from this murder (that's what is is - MURDER!)?
yes..until the jokers in the Supreme Court decided that "life support" included nutrition.
I'm only in support of this if by 'incapacitated' you mean 'votes Democrat'
They can override Federal Law, but not a Federal Court ruling. Otherwise, the Supreme Court would be a poorly named body.
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